tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post1099364435562309540..comments2023-10-31T06:31:41.395-04:00Comments on Bottom of the Barrel: Peter King Follows Up MMQB Idiocy With Mailbag IdiocyBengoodfellahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-2142991590179539922009-06-11T13:55:10.857-04:002009-06-11T13:55:10.857-04:00Yeah, Detroit is pretty solid right now with their...Yeah, Detroit is pretty solid right now with their starting pitching, there is no doubt about that. Porcello is why it pays to draft pitchers regardless of how much money they may want. I bet Chris may have a little discussion with you about the Tigers being the class of the AL Central, he is a White Sox fan. <br /><br />The Tigers can easily trade for any bullpen help they may need, I would not worry too much about that. If Thomas turned into anything resembling Wade Boggs that would be awesome for Detroit. That's a pretty high standard to hit though.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-58137602718533145672009-06-11T12:11:05.126-04:002009-06-11T12:11:05.126-04:00Verlander is the best pitcher in the AL at this po...Verlander is the best pitcher in the AL at this point, maybe even in baseball period. Just check his last 9 starts...amazing. All you really need to do is check out the quotes by the opposing hitters to find out just how good he's throwing. And with Jackson going right behind him, I can't think of better 1-2 starters in the league right now. Can you imigine this team next year when Porcello gets a whole year to learn this year?<br /><br />I still think they need a closer, though I really believe just about anyone can close. But Rodney just scares me a little to much.<br /><br />I'm glad they sent Larish down, maybe he can learn to stop pulling the ball, but I doubt it. Clete Thomas reminds me so much of Wade Boggs in terms of hitting stroke. I hope he can develop into that type of hitter as well. <br /><br />They are the team to beat in the AL Central though, thats for sure.AJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16973629881511639449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-63399377124214478782009-06-11T11:06:22.756-04:002009-06-11T11:06:22.756-04:00Chris, are you honestly telling me you would not w...Chris, are you honestly telling me you would not want the people in this order shooting the last shot? <br /><br />Horry<br />Jordan<br />Kobe<br /><br />I would want Horry shooting that last shot. He is Big Shot Rob!<br /><br />AJ, I didn't mean to make you sound stupid or anything. I figured you got that but felt the need to mention it anyway. The Yankees could not win a game against the Red Sox and still win the division this year. It would be hard, but you are exactly right about that. People, being MSM, like to make a big deal about the head to head battles though. It gives them a kick to do it. <br /><br />I think we are going to have to permanently deal with the Boston-New York "race" the entire year, unless the Rays step up. <br /><br />I am with you on Steve Kerr, let's get it started, as well as a better wikipedia page for FJMorgan. <br /><br />How about that game Verlander pitched yesterday? Last pitch was at 98 mph...Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-40121831143010254582009-06-11T10:06:35.888-04:002009-06-11T10:06:35.888-04:00I mean I'm not stupid, I understand why this p...I mean I'm not stupid, I understand why this person thinks the lead is a lot bigger then it appears. Yes the Yankees cant beat the Sox...but they don't have to in order to win their division. All they have to do is finish with a better record overall then the Sox. I know it helps to beat them, but its not the most important thing. They will beat them tonight, and once again be tied with them. And once again we will get nothing but NY Boston talk about how tight the race is...even though we are still only in June.<br /><br />I'm starting a Kerr for the HoF campaign now.AJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16973629881511639449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-26544982477114016602009-06-11T09:51:56.121-04:002009-06-11T09:51:56.121-04:00Horry was an excellent role player on those teams,...Horry was an excellent role player on those teams, but he was no star. Now Steve Kerr, I am surprised Horry doesn't think he deserves to make the Hall of Fame also. He did a lot of things on those Bulls teams as well. <br /><br />I read that Horry wanted credit for his defense. That's great and all but everyone plays defense and even if he was an above average defender that doesn't mean he should be in the Hall of Fame. Otherwise Bruce Bowen would start to have a claim to the HoF as well. <br /><br />I saw SI's front page today and it is all Yankees-Red Sox. They are in a fight for the division lead so I figured it would happen. The Red Sox lead is one game and sadly I have an idea of why the writer thinks it is more than one game...and that is because the Yankees can't seem to beat the Red Sox. I don't think they have a mental advantage over them at this point, so I think the lead is really just one game. <br /><br />That's a good question. I don't know if the lead would be more than one game if the Yankees some how muster out a win tonight. I think then, it would be tied. Bo Sox advantage is gone at that point...you know in the hypothetical world of that SI.com article.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-46012867713020338752009-06-11T09:40:20.468-04:002009-06-11T09:40:20.468-04:00I love how HORRY putting HIMSELF above Jordan, Bir...I love how HORRY putting HIMSELF above Jordan, Bird, and Miller is cited as if that means something.<br /><br />"Hey Cutler, who would you want throwing the last pass in a close game: You or Elway."<br /><br />"Well...uh, I guess I'd want the ball in that situation..."Chris Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12152452626681072765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-85683454168840993802009-06-11T08:52:32.248-04:002009-06-11T08:52:32.248-04:00Horry, right place, right time. I mean he has 7 r...Horry, right place, right time. I mean he has 7 rings, but he also was such a garbage player that he could fit into any team he wanted because he didn't cost much. I mean its not like he was the driving force on the Lakers or the Spurs. Those teams could have had me on their team and we would have still won the title. He got to play with 3 of the best centers/power forwards of all time, of course they were going to win. <br /><br />You average 7 points per game, please shut up already! <br /><br />Steve Kerr has 5 rings and averaged 5 points per game, get his plaque ready now!!!<br /><br />I listened to that interview with DP...Horry went on to say that he did other things then just hit big shots...for example he said he played defense. Well thats good, cuz I don't know one player who didn't play defense. <br /><br />On another topic, has anyone seen SI's main page this morning. You guessed it, Yankees Red Sox garbage! I just like the headline for a column, something about the Red Sox 1 game lead being bigger then what it appears...i laughed. One game is one game, i'm not sure what planet SI lives on. They are up 1 game and the season is 1/3 done...so what? Thats not a very big hole to be in with over 100 games left to play. And the way the Yankees started off this season, I'm suprised they are only 1 game back. What happens if the Yankees win tonight, would the Red Sox still hold a lead over them even though they would be tied?AJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16973629881511639449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-27645802716833674292009-06-11T07:59:20.205-04:002009-06-11T07:59:20.205-04:00I think everyone knew he was on something because ...I think everyone knew he was on something because every time they showed him on television they mentioned he was so big in the arms. I only have fond memories of him because he threatened the entire Gramatica clan with a beat down and when the Panthers traded him they got a punter who was better than him and a 7th round pick who turned out to be a decent backup in return. <br /><br />That is an interesting statistic you gave, I wonder if he would have been the first if they had kept the sack total the entire history of the NFL.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-51493232962867056402009-06-10T22:44:49.275-04:002009-06-10T22:44:49.275-04:00haha, i was honestly just trying to remember that ...haha, i was honestly just trying to remember that fucknuts name. I wouldnt feel too bad about it. Its like the Pats and the spygate thing, everyone was doing it, they just got caught.<br /><br />Heres an interesting Harrison stat: He is the only player in NFL history to have 30 career interceptions and 30 career sacks.Fred Triggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16980604002168881166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-22112570504854297572009-06-10T22:19:29.909-04:002009-06-10T22:19:29.909-04:00Good news? Great news! It's a huge honor.
I ...Good news? Great news! It's a huge honor. <br /><br />I think Harrison probably is one of the hardest hitting safeties of the past couple of years and I wasn't sure about his production because I honestly am not as up on the HoF credentials for football players like I should be. I don't think I would be against him making it if his numbers are pretty good...and if I recall he actually has good numbers from when he was with the Chargers. I think it is unfortunate he only played on the East Coast in the latter parts of his career so he didn't get quite the recognition he should. <br /><br />Thanks for bringing up Todd Sauerbrun Fred. You are always wanting to bring up players from that cheating ass 2003 Panthers team. We have nothing to be proud of except that, and yet you still have to remind me that 3/5 of the offensive line was connected to PED's and our punter was too. Gee, thanks. <br /><br />It would not shock me if Steve Smith was on PED's. He already has the roid rage down pat. <br /><br />I think I would rather have Horry's career as well. He really had some good times. Unfortunately, he still in no way deserves the Hall of Fame. There's no question in my mind he was not good enough.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-29611847575200496392009-06-10T21:47:31.582-04:002009-06-10T21:47:31.582-04:00Harrison was a hell of a safety, even if he was di...Harrison was a hell of a safety, even if he was dirty. I'm not sure if he's HoF quality, but considering that the Football HoF is pretty much the "Skill Players HoF" I'd vote him in as one of the top safeties of the last 20-25 years. <br /><br />I'm not sure if Horry got the message, but to make the Basketball HoF it would be helpful if the guy actually played enough to make a difference other then a single shot at the end of the game. Simmons actually did a nice write up on if a player would want a HoF career with no rings, or Horry's career of good player, lots of money, and 7 rings. I thought it was pretty much a no brainer, give me Horry's career.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00086638597582394978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-62186857575437257062009-06-10T21:01:55.421-04:002009-06-10T21:01:55.421-04:00I was wondering what the heck you were talking abo...I was wondering what the heck you were talking about, until I went over to FJM for the first time today and saw the good news.<br /><br />Hmm, not really too sure about Harrison. If you want my Nostratrigger prediction, this is what I foresee: He gets in with the Jim Rice fear factor argument. You know years after he retires, there will be many New England writers shelling out stories about how he was the most feared, hard hitting safety the league has ever seen. Which, to be honest, I'm not so sure its that far from the truth. I was friends with a kid from San Diego, and he told me when the Pats got him we were in for a treat, becuase the only reason he watched Chargers football was to watch Harrison lay people out. I dont know if I can hold the HGH thing against him, because if you do that, all your going to have is a HOF filled with kickers, and even they have used (I cant remember his name, I think he used to play for the panthers, then the pats picked him up and waited out his suspension).Fred Triggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16980604002168881166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-43902099398671222782009-06-10T20:43:52.730-04:002009-06-10T20:43:52.730-04:00Oh ok, thanks for shedding some light on that Fred...Oh ok, thanks for shedding some light on that Fred. I guess Peter was not censoring anything, he jut did not get a good response. <br /><br />How about you got the best comment in the history of FJMariotti? I know you are very proud of that honor. <br /><br />I will have to make up an award here to give to you to compete with their new Hall of Shame and "best comment ever" designation. I will need a few days to think about one. You saw Harrison a little bit, do you think he is Hof worthy? <br /><br />I keep looking for Peter King at the Yankees-Red Sox game because I think he is there tonight. I will do anything to ignore the fact the Braves are getting shut out.......again.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-13252066855276002952009-06-10T20:29:59.362-04:002009-06-10T20:29:59.362-04:00"The responses weren't great?"
I th..."The responses weren't great?"<br /><br />I think I know what Peter means by this. <br /><br />AFter Harrison was suspended for the HGH thing, he went on a local radio show for an interview. The interview was going fine until the HGH suspension came up. He didnt flip out or anything, he just went silent and competely dodged the questions. I'm thinking Peter got a similar response and that was his nice way of putting it.Fred Triggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16980604002168881166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-85238676093408406102009-06-10T19:07:18.724-04:002009-06-10T19:07:18.724-04:00Great point. I think he would actually have a bett...Great point. I think he would actually have a better chance at having the writers vote him in the HoF than the players. I would assume he thought about that. I haven't even looked at his numbers and whether he deserves the HoF or not. I obviously don't give a crap about Pro Bowls made. <br /><br />I think he may start annoying me when he is an announcer...I just have a feeling.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-43458367015734299722009-06-10T17:47:35.110-04:002009-06-10T17:47:35.110-04:00Harrison says the Hall of Fame should be determine...Harrison says the Hall of Fame should be determined by those who played football? He'd never get in, same reason he rarely made the Pro Bowl.KentAllardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16034050997693995004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-32376535080602930352009-06-10T13:43:32.939-04:002009-06-10T13:43:32.939-04:00Apparently the Rockets thought he had upside as we...Apparently the Rockets thought he had upside as well because he got drafted by them in the first round. He was a good player but I don't know how deluded you have to be to believe that Robert Horry actually deserves to make the Hall of Fame. <br /><br />His reasoning was stupid. He compared himself to Dennis Rodman, though Rodman was an incredibly defender and rebounder and Horry really excelled at not one thing. <br /><br />He also said the Hall of Fame voters were too stuck on numbers. I don't know what other criteria the voters should use, though I am open to suggestions. How else would you determine the best players of each era without using some sort of numerical system and comparison. It's pretty easy for me. He was a very important role player but he was in no way a Hall of Fame player.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-3011056766815931902009-06-10T12:53:53.879-04:002009-06-10T12:53:53.879-04:00His first couple of years in the league I thought ...His first couple of years in the league I thought Horry had a lot of upside, but he never really lived up to that. He only averaged more then 6 rpg twice in his career. Also, he only averaged more than 32.5 mpg once. If your team doesn't need you on the floor for at least three quarters of the game <i>ever</i>, then you might not be a Hall of Famer. Robert Horry's career was one long case of being in the right place at the right time.The Caseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03323030436625176444noreply@blogger.com