tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post1359655461140376807..comments2023-10-31T06:31:41.395-04:00Comments on Bottom of the Barrel: Mike Vick Can Rest Easy, Bill Simmons Has Forgiven HimBengoodfellahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-58892584034429263042010-10-12T19:08:56.777-04:002010-10-12T19:08:56.777-04:00Nice blog. I checked it out. Good luck with the Bi...Nice blog. I checked it out. Good luck with the Bill Simmons hating. It can get pretty rough sometimes.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-89939937104048580602010-10-09T01:52:10.073-04:002010-10-09T01:52:10.073-04:00bill simmons is an arrogant tool
http://firebills...bill simmons is an arrogant tool<br /><br />http://firebillsimmons.wordpress.com/2010/10/08/fire-bill-simmons/anti-simmons avengernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-82383075192027986132010-10-08T21:38:36.287-04:002010-10-08T21:38:36.287-04:00Justin, that is a good point. I shouldn't have...Justin, that is a good point. I shouldn't have said "no one" was talking about that. I should have said I am not talking about that. Most of those main hits a year old now, but your point stands. I take it back...I am not talking about taking away Vick's right to earn a living. Other people are, but I am not. <br /><br />I am somewhat aware of the way our food supply is fed and killed. Like I said, we are hypocrites about stuff like that, but possibly part of my hypocrisy is I find it different what Vick did with dogfighting and how our food supply is treated. I think possibly I look at it differently because it is food that I eat, which really isn't a good excuse. Still, I don't know if I can buy the comparison to Thanksgiving dinner. I see how others could though. <br /><br />I didn't get the part that went on about LeBron James either. I thought it was a weak comparison. Vick has had more time to re-think his actions. I feel like Bill is arguing a point and can't support it too well. <br /><br />Sun, I see the difference. Vick has corrected his behavior, I don't know if he is redeemed yet. What got me about this article was that Bill was trying to convince everyone to openly cheer for him, which I am not sure I can find justification for. Yeah, he is a better person now, but I don't have to cheer him because of this. <br /><br />There was no garbage time in that game. Clay Matthews and Woodson played all game and I know this b/c I got some crazy fantasy stats from Matthews. I have a feeling Bill may not have seen the game. Vick was in the game just after halftime if I remember correctly.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-32778336076381405772010-10-08T16:16:43.557-04:002010-10-08T16:16:43.557-04:00Clearly Simmons doesn't realize there's a ...Clearly Simmons doesn't realize there's a difference between "correction" and "redemption." Vick corrected his behavior; redemption ain't so easy. That would be a long discussion that Simmons wouldn't be qualified to handle so he's better off not trying. I won't try, either.<br /><br />Also who knew that he only played "two garbage-time quarters" against the Packers? They were only down 7 when he stepped in(for good, he had been used for a few wildcat plays in the first half), but it was still early and if not for a Eldra Buckley fumble, the Eagles probably end up tying that game. They had a drive with four minutes left in the game where they were only down 7. A case can be made that the Packers didn't base their game strategy on stopping Vick and were perhaps underprepared for the QB change, but Bill's implying that the Packers had their scrubs in 'cause it was "garbage-time." I'd like to hear his reasoning why Clay Matthews and Charles Woodson played every second of this "garbage-time" against Vick.your favourite sunnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-49208982625624188522010-10-07T21:16:21.900-04:002010-10-07T21:16:21.900-04:00"No one is talking about not letting Vick mak...<i>"No one is talking about not letting Vick make a living. That's not the issue. The issue is whether a person should actively root for Vick or not."</i><br />Yeah, on the other hand - <a href="http://www.google.com/#hl=en&expIds=25657,25983,27007,27015,27026,27031,27032,27035,27037,27042&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=vick+should+not+play+football&cp=29&pf=p&sclient=psy&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=vick+should+not+play+football&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=5a996d56de453056" rel="nofollow">this.</a><br /><br /><i>Bill is comparing the preparation of Thanksgiving dinner to the physical, mental, and emotional torture of animals.</i><br />Umm, so, have you seen how animals live and die in our industrialized food supply system? To get into the details of that, I think you'd be hard pressed to defend the position that it does not constitute physical, mental and emotional torture of animals.<br /><br />Other than that, I agree with you about Simmons. That writing is pretty shitty, and when he starts comparing Vick's situation to other athletes, most especially Lebron, he sounds like an idiot.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02924326177370725150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-11920974509114576762010-10-07T13:38:00.345-04:002010-10-07T13:38:00.345-04:00Matt, it's not just my thing. Anyone can learn...Matt, it's not just my thing. Anyone can learn to be as picky and useless as I am about complaining about bad sportswriting. I will check out Stark's work though.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-57077471667032753082010-10-07T12:48:16.701-04:002010-10-07T12:48:16.701-04:00that was ridiculous last night. i know railing on...that was ridiculous last night. i know railing on bad sportswriting is your thing (and i love it), but if you get a chance check out some of Jason Stark's work at espn.com. he really shines this time of year. poetic, almost.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14776581084879567908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-85940250591600419082010-10-06T19:49:00.689-04:002010-10-06T19:49:00.689-04:00I personally think Vick has done his time and we s...I personally think Vick has done his time and we should all move now. That being said ("Curb" reference anyone?), I am not going to actively cheer for Vick. Bill's column wasn't even about forgiving Vick, but actively cheering for him b/c I haven't ever really liked him. <br /><br />I can see the Martha Stewart comparison. I think Vick did bring some awareness to the issue of dogfighting but I am not going to give him credit for it. He shouldn't have gotten to slide and he did his time. <br /><br />Roy Halladay is a badass and ridiculous. What a well-pitched game.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-52848392385324887862010-10-06T19:24:20.095-04:002010-10-06T19:24:20.095-04:00I liked the sports Gal even more after this column...I liked the sports Gal even more after this column. I can totally get into the "Got caught, did his time, let the man move on" since I think everybody has a friend or family member who has ended up on the wrong end of the law in some fashion. I can also get her "I'll always hate him for what he did to dogs, and I think he's a liar" position. Fair enough. At least she has a position. Bill just likes watching Vick play, so he's looking for reasons to forgive him. <br /><br />Mike Vick to me is a lot like Martha Stewart in that yes there are other people doing the same thing, maybe even on larger scale, who aren't being punished or prosecuted to this extreme. That doesn't mean that those other people shouldn't be! Lesser guilty is still guilty, and I'm pissed that other inside traders and dog fighting ring leaders aren't in jail and having their savings stripped from them, but it doesn't mean we let the famous but less guilty ones slide.<br /><br />This just in, Roy Halladay is a bad ass.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02929927900897638100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-53906928717488252762010-10-06T17:42:57.338-04:002010-10-06T17:42:57.338-04:00Matt, yes. Bill can actively cheer for Vick but no...Matt, yes. Bill can actively cheer for Vick but not Peyton Manning. He must really hate the Colts. <br /><br />I love the name of that face! I think if Vick had that face then Bill would cheer for him even harder.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-30178170894782678162010-10-06T15:57:45.999-04:002010-10-06T15:57:45.999-04:00so Bill roots for Vick but against Peyton Manning....so Bill roots for Vick but against Peyton Manning. hmmm.<br /><br />one wonders if there was a Michael Vick "I just got caught with my hand on the rape stand" face whether Bill would still be rooting for Vick.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14776581084879567908noreply@blogger.com