tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post6009397655843205224..comments2023-10-31T06:31:41.395-04:00Comments on Bottom of the Barrel: Let's Have a Tip of Your Hat For a Joe Morgan Chat!Bengoodfellahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-20591862993137341822010-10-25T16:34:17.361-04:002010-10-25T16:34:17.361-04:00Anon, maybe Joe grades AJ Burnett on a curve to wh...Anon, maybe Joe grades AJ Burnett on a curve to where if he only walks 5 players than that is a good game? I would classify him as having two good starts in those five games. That's not a guy the Yankees can count on, though for how much they pay him they should be able to. <br /><br />I bet Joe thinks they were great starts b/c the Yankees were able to come back and actually won some of those games. Joe only judges a player on how well his team does, not how well he personally does...except when it comes to Andy Pettitte.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-67619795636596215822010-10-25T15:19:17.538-04:002010-10-25T15:19:17.538-04:00And that 1.39 WHIP is misleadingly low because he ...And that 1.39 WHIP is misleadingly low because he also had 5 HBP. So he allowed 43 baserunners in 27 innings. This is not good at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-60215782990895407602010-10-25T15:16:19.058-04:002010-10-25T15:16:19.058-04:00"AJ Burnett has pitched great in the postseas..."AJ Burnett has pitched great in the postseason, last year he did."<br /><br />AJ started 5 games in the postseason last year. <br /><br />He had an ok start in Game 2 of the ALDS against the Twins but he did walk 5 batters in 6 innings. In total he allowed 10 baserunners in that time. He only gave up one earned run, but I think the large number of baserunners suggests that he wasn't dominating at all in this game. So he wasn't "great" in that game. He was more like average to slightly above average. <br /><br />He had a good start in Game 2 of the ALCS. 6.1 IP, only 7 baserunners allowed. I'm not sure if this is "great" considering that he didn't even go 7 innings and only struck out 4 batters, but it was still pretty good. <br /><br />His Game 5 start of the ALCS was a disaster. He gave up 4 runs in the first inning. His WPA was -.370, which implies that a huge chunk of the loss came at his hands. The Yankees actually did come back to take the lead later in the game, but AJ let the 2 leadoff hitters in the next inning reach base and then the bullpen blew that lead away. There is no way to sugarcoat this as anything but a huge disaster of a start for AJ. <br /><br />His Game 2 start of the world series was great. He went 7 innings and struck out 9 Phillies with only 2 walks. He only allowed 6 baserunners and 1 earned run. This was a memorable start since it was in the world series and against Pedro Martinez, and so I'm 100% sure that this is the only game Joe Morgan thinks about when he says that AJ was "great" in the postseason in 2009.<br /><br />AJ was terrible again in Game 5 of the World Series. He only lasted 2 innings and gave up 6 earned runs with 9 baserunners allowed. This was much worse that the horrible ALCS Game 5 start. The team had no chance to win thanks to AJ's -0.389 WPA. What a disaster. Why doesn't anybody remember this one? <br /><br /><br /><br />So there you go. His overall postseason numbers from 2009 were not even close to "great": 5.27 ERA, 1.39 WHIP, and 16 walks in 27 innings. <br /><br />He had one great start. He had two starts that were complete disasters and the kind of stuff you would expect from a terrible pitcher like Sidney Ponson. And he had one good start and one average-ish start. 2009 was definitely not a "great" postseason for AJ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-47422791305675829712010-10-23T14:15:54.381-04:002010-10-23T14:15:54.381-04:00Anon, I do remember him saying there was no debate...Anon, I do remember him saying there was no debate a/b the AL Cy Young. I think that is a great point that I failed to make. He can apparently grasp the concept of pitchers needing run support when he wants to. <br /><br />It's completely contradictory, there's no doubt about that. I think Joe just says that about Pettitte b/c he pitches for a team that has a good record, but when it comes to another pitcher in a similar situation he can't grasp the concept.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-71165358593771723602010-10-23T12:26:16.414-04:002010-10-23T12:26:16.414-04:00Remember how defensive Joe got about how there sho...Remember how defensive Joe got about how there should be "no debate" about Sabathia winning the Cy over Felix because Sabathia has many more Wins and Joe also said that low run support means nothing for Felix's W-L record? This implies that when King Felix goes 7 innings and gives up 2 runs but gets the Loss that he didn't do enough to help his team win. Joe doesn't seem to look at that outing as helpful to the team's chance to win that particular game.<br /><br />But now in this chat Joe says that Andy Pettitte "gave his team a chance to win" by going 7 innings and giving up only 2 runs. Joe recongizes this as a very impressive pitching performance that was undermined by no run support, and so that's why Andy got the Loss.<br /><br />So when Andy does it it is an impressive performance that "gave his team a chance to win" but when players like Felix or Greinke or Hamels do it, Joe uses this to defend the idea that they aren't as good as CC Sabathia and his 21 wins. This is crazy talk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-62710575049990924512010-10-22T22:09:13.686-04:002010-10-22T22:09:13.686-04:00Joe thought about that and he counters with if the...Joe thought about that and he counters with if the Yankees were a consistent team they could win games where they don't score any runs. <br /><br />That's terrible. "our" and "are?" <br /><br />I love how Joe overrates managers. The Blue Jays were a great team but Gaston hasn't had a ton of success outside of those two years. Managers win World Series, not players. Don't you know that?Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-37588655261599153062010-10-22T20:00:59.254-04:002010-10-22T20:00:59.254-04:00They've had struggles this year where they cou...<b>They've had struggles this year where they couldn't score runs. </b><br /><br />They've also struggled when they couldn't stop the opposing team from scoring too! Think about that!<br /><br /><b>He's an idiot and confused the word "are" and "hard." </b><br /><br />I had a group in my lab the other week confuse "are" with "our"... it was pretty bad.<br /><br /><b>But if you look at all of the great managers, how many won 2 World Series titles?</b><br /><br />Ya, I remember when Charlie Manuel came out and hit that big HR in the NLCS against the Dodgers in 2008... wait, that was Matt Stairs? Oh, who is Charlie Manuel?FormerPhDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12837594679660975599noreply@blogger.com