tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post7039847808492240369..comments2023-10-31T06:31:41.395-04:00Comments on Bottom of the Barrel: Yeah, Roger Goodell Should Resign If An Agreement Can't Be- - -Wait, What?Bengoodfellahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-25580689770012088862011-03-12T19:38:08.279-05:002011-03-12T19:38:08.279-05:00Anon, exactly. I could have cut my post down to ju...Anon, exactly. I could have cut my post down to just that. <br /><br />That's my basic point. Goodell works for the owners. They don't want to back down and so they won't. He can't force them to either. It's not like he would want a lockout. Resigning is dumb in my mind.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-16975713150892448172011-03-12T19:35:25.517-05:002011-03-12T19:35:25.517-05:00lol goodell works for the owners moron. Why would ...lol goodell works for the owners moron. Why would he resign because a deal can't be met?<br /><br />The owners are (at least) half the reason there's no deal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-2237802490326511342011-03-12T08:35:24.004-05:002011-03-12T08:35:24.004-05:00Arjun, I just thought this article was ridiculous ...Arjun, I just thought this article was ridiculous personally. I blame the owners but I don't see how Goodell resigning and taking him out of the equation makes an agreement more likely nor do I see how this would mean Goodell failed...at least at this point. <br /><br />Gene would be right if at some point down the line Goodell is holding up the negotiations, but he doesn't want a lockout either.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-41084352803939404082011-03-12T06:21:02.787-05:002011-03-12T06:21:02.787-05:00gene never fails to provide good comedy. ever. r...gene never fails to provide good comedy. ever. roger goodell should resign because at bunch of greedy money whores acted like greedy money whores. priceless. i actually do like your suggestion that ESPN disbands itself if it can't get gene to start writing columns that are above the writing level of a 3-year old. kill two birds with one stone.Arjun Chandrasekharhttp://www.arjun-allthingssports.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-47998167016613635072011-03-11T13:28:45.788-05:002011-03-11T13:28:45.788-05:00Martin, that is what makes me think they don't...Martin, that is what makes me think they don't have toxic assets they need to get rid of. If they did, then I think they would open the books and say, "look, we are poor." They haven't done that. I wouldn't rule out maybe there is a financing problem, but there isn't any proof at this point. <br /><br />I think the owners just want money and that's the bottom line. They feel like the players get too much of the money and want to change that.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-7999545031316009732011-03-11T13:11:32.226-05:002011-03-11T13:11:32.226-05:00If the owners have some type of toxic assets probl...If the owners have some type of toxic assets problem with some of the stadium financing, then they need to show it to the players. Open the books, let them see why you need an extra $800 million a year off the top. The owners refuse to, and as such, not s single person believes them when they say they need the money.<br /><br />Do the owners realize that jsut about anybody can do simple math and go "Hmm, 1.8 billion a year. That would let them build the brand new Cowboy Stadium, EVERY YEAR, in total! Debt free! What kind of expenses can they possibly have that would need 1.8 billion??"Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02929927900897638100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-26377621639410565212011-03-11T10:58:46.289-05:002011-03-11T10:58:46.289-05:00Matthew, if we assume the stadium funding may have...Matthew, if we assume the stadium funding may have come together with some fuzzy funding, I don't know who exactly to place that on. If the costs skyrocket I want to say that is the cost of doing business. Yet, I also realize it could also potentially not be the entire fault of the owners. I know absolutely nothing, but I would doubt the stadiums were built with shaky financing, but then you never know.<br /><br />I don't know if the owners really need more money, but they are pretty adamant in their need to have the players take more of the pie. Part of me wonders if there is something going on (in regard to the owners) that we haven't heard about which has made the owners super aggressive. Maybe they are just assholes.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-86956268165865648552011-03-11T09:04:17.983-05:002011-03-11T09:04:17.983-05:00"Goodell says no new stadiums have been built..."Goodell says no new stadiums have been built since 2006"<br /><br />other than the new Meadowlands, Cowboys Stadium, etc.<br /><br />these new stadiums have been funded my multiple sources, but the bulk of the money comes from BANKS. the same banks that have been known to use "creative" financing to make more money for themselves. <br /><br />is it possible, or even likely, that some of the debt that teams have from stadium deals was structured poorly (for them)? what if their costs have skyrocketed over the past year or two as this debt has become toxic? <br /><br />that's just speculation, of course. maybe the owners are just super greedy sonofabitches. or maybe they really NEED more money.conshy matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02256920118100856001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-80655051440692493902011-03-10T20:42:36.117-05:002011-03-10T20:42:36.117-05:00Ivn, the economy is a key factor as to why stadium...Ivn, the economy is a key factor as to why stadiums haven't been built. I don't think the lockout is primarily really about that, though the owners will do anything to act like they are so poor and need help. <br /><br />I don't think resigning in the event of a lockout would serve much purpose. I think the owners have respect for him, I just think they are so money-hungry and greedy they will pretty run over whoever they have to in order to get what they want. I think Goodell has done a fairly good job. He has made the NFL even more popular and the product is still good. I think a lockout would show the greed of the owners more than anything else. <br /><br />Martin, that's so true about the building for the Super Bowl this year. I know the NFL will come to California, I just don't know when and how it will go over. Like you said, all indications are that the government can't help build a stadium and with the financial problems of California it isn't a high priority. <br /><br />I agree. I think Goodell doesn't want a lockout b/c it affects his legacy. He wants everyone to agree, but the owners are hell-bent and I think Goodell resigning would do nothing but delay the process. <br /><br />I didn't get that 2006 figure either. I thought the new Giants/Jets stadium was built recently too.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-6204698735300487452011-03-10T18:50:08.990-05:002011-03-10T18:50:08.990-05:00There really aren't any new stadiums to build,...There really aren't any new stadiums to build, except in California, and the state and local governments have told the NFL to go F itself about a dozen times when it shows up with it's hand out. <br /><br />They want 1.8 billion a year for stadium and other expenses? WTF? Gold plated toilet seats? They couldn't even get the temporary seats for their biggest game of the year built on time and to code. <br /><br />In the end, I have to place this on Richardson and Kraft and their boys. Roger can only do so much arm twisting.<br /><br />Also, um, wasn't Cowboy Stadium finished two years ago? Meaning well after 2006?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02929927900897638100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-64160351222582269422011-03-10T16:58:07.015-05:002011-03-10T16:58:07.015-05:00...the message being that owners can't afford ...<b>...the message being that owners can't afford the cost of new construction.</b><br /><br />but the owners really only foot about half the bill on new stadiums, if that. maybe the reason no new stadiums have been built is because the economy has gone completely down the shitter in 2006 and cities no longer want to invest hundreds of millions of dollars on an "investment" that they see very little returns on?<br /><br />I actually kind of side with Gene Wochziaoiegnwski here (emphasis on kind of). Goodell was handed the reigns to one of the biggest cash cows in the country and he hasn't really been doing a great job; it also appears as though both the owners and the NFLPA have little respect for him. resigning in the event of a lockout might not be a bad idea.ivnnoreply@blogger.com