tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post7791508414554157850..comments2023-10-31T06:31:41.395-04:00Comments on Bottom of the Barrel: MMQB Review: Peter King Writes an Entire Page of Dedications to Derek Jeter, Wonders When Someone Will Recognize Paul Konerko Is Retiring TooBengoodfellahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-88324346903815930342014-10-01T17:13:57.120-04:002014-10-01T17:13:57.120-04:00Eric, any comparisons have to be made between play...Eric, any comparisons have to be made between players of the same race. That's how it works. Teddy Bridgewater is the Jimmy Butler of the NFL. That is acceptable. Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-36215412750129535442014-10-01T12:45:23.227-04:002014-10-01T12:45:23.227-04:00Let me be the first to say that Teddy Bridgewater ...Let me be the first to say that Teddy Bridgewater is the Doug McDermott of the NFL. Why? Why not!Eric Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-60488196433674568692014-10-01T08:41:42.451-04:002014-10-01T08:41:42.451-04:00Snarf, what did Brady say? What could he say? He&#...Snarf, what did Brady say? What could he say? He's getting ready to play a football game, he probably doesn't want to talk about Jeter. <br /><br />My issue with Goodell is that he wants to make all of these decisions himself, then he he screws one up and all of a sudden the owners are like, "Well maybe he shouldn't have so much power." It's convenient until it bites them in the ass. So now the owners are waiting for Goodell to do something about a player Adrian Peterson and he isn't going to do anything, so it's just a cluster. <br /><br />Anon, I certainly paid attention to it. I quit watching football to watch the no-hitter. <br /><br />Snarf, that's a good point. The Jeter walk-off was a meaningless game too, wasn't it? And that cherry-picking is ridiculous. I have come to ignore it because I am so used to Peter doing things like that. <br /><br />Slag, I love Bridgewater too much, so I probably have my own bias there. He has an ankle injury and he seems to be fine. It's not like he's a scrambling QB. I have no doubt that Peter will go hard at Bridgewater at some point. I usually have no problem with an "expert" opinion, but Mayock changed his so much after one bad Pro Day. It was crazy. <br /><br />Oh wow, I had forgotten he was at LSU. He does a great job with college QB's, but it seems they aren't translating well to the NFL for some reason. I don't blame him, but it would make me wary of Jameis Winston. He's not a system QB, but make sure his skills translate to the NFL. <br /><br />Franc, yes I think it would be similar. The Stockton comparison is mostly annoying because Peter says Wilson is on the level of Brady and Manning, then compares him to Stockton, but Stockton was never on the level of Jordan/Bird/Magic (the great players in the NBA). Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-25300585844397317422014-10-01T05:13:18.591-04:002014-10-01T05:13:18.591-04:00the stockton comparison is really stupid. if russe...the stockton comparison is really stupid. if russell wilson will never (?) lead the nfl in passing yards, how is that similar to stockton, who lead the nba in assists for god knows how many years?<br />if a stupid comparison between the nfl and the nba is to be made, isn't passing yardage more similar to assists rather than scoring?francnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-26369333248138920822014-09-30T17:15:53.793-04:002014-09-30T17:15:53.793-04:00I think that you would have to include Matt Flynn ...I think that you would have to include Matt Flynn as well, since he had him 2003 - 2006 (Flynn would be the starter in 2007, but Fisher had left). He played some as Russell's backup and led them to the 2005 Peach Bowl victory.Snarfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-59454372486942304022014-09-30T17:00:04.518-04:002014-09-30T17:00:04.518-04:00but Fisher is about to put three quarterbacks in t...<b> but Fisher is about to put three quarterbacks in the NFL in five years, one has been a bust, one is getting there and then there is Jameis Winston.</b><br /><br />Don't forget that he coached JaMarcus Russell at LSU before going to Florida State. (Here's his QB resume @ LSU: Josh Booty, Rohan Davey, Matt Mauck, and of course, Russell).Slag-Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04675587994618760072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-75201589432057822312014-09-30T16:45:24.164-04:002014-09-30T16:45:24.164-04:00But Bridgewater is a smallish guy, and his second-...<b>But Bridgewater is a smallish guy, and his second-half sprained ankle was a reminder of some of the reservations teams had about him before the draft.</b><br /><br />When I read that, I was surprised because I never got that from King about Bridgewater. It was as you said Maynock's analysis that burned Teddy and Peter spewed much venom Teddy's way. Slag-Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04675587994618760072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-66812943773347250242014-09-30T16:32:41.414-04:002014-09-30T16:32:41.414-04:00Not him. I was watching the game the other night, ...<b>Not him. I was watching the game the other night, and when the O’s hit the two-run homer to go up 5-4, I thought to myself, if this thing gets to the bottom of the ninth, he is going to win it. Sure enough…”</b><br /><br />Interestingly enough, the O's tied the game before Jeter's walk off (rather than go ahead). It's a game the Yanks had in hand and almost blew. Not that big of a deal, but Peter is supposed to be a sportswriter, so I think the events of the game are more than a trivial detail here.<br /><br /><b>c. Jordan Zimmermann might have thrown the least-celebrated no-hitter in memory Sunday, because of the meaninglessness of the game and it happening on the day of Jeter’s last game and on a big NFL Sunday.</b><br /><br />Talk about irony... The Jeter walkoff everyone is creaming themselves over was in a meaningless game. Yanks had been eliminated for a while.<br /><br /><b>j. Shouldn’t a man with more home runs in his career than Johnny Bench, Andre Dawson, Cal Ripken Jr., Mike Piazza and Jim Rice get a little more fanfare on the way out?</b><br /><br />I hate when Peter does this weird cherry picking (I think he did it last year for Jeter with individual stats, like "Jeter has more triples than Babe Ruth, etc."). Cal Ripken was a freaking shortstop, part of his legacy is the most homers from the SS position, but let's not act like a DH/1B isn't the most power position of power positions. Moving on, Bench and Piazza are both catchers, again, part of the reason for their legacies being that catcher isn't a power position. Andre Dawson was a corner outfielder for the back half of his career, but his first half was as a Gold Glove centerfielder, so again not really a good 1:1 here. Finally, Jim Rice isn't nearly the player those other guys are, but Peter includes him because Boston Red Sox (Giancarlo Stanton to the Sox for young pitching!).Snarfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-10932752152830275682014-09-30T16:09:05.738-04:002014-09-30T16:09:05.738-04:00I don't want to get too far into the business ...I don't want to get too far into the business of defending Goddell but Goddell can't really do anything without the media having some kind of outrage about it. They complained and said he was dragging his feet with the Roethlisberger issue, then he acted too quickly and unfairly in the cases of Pacman Jones and Vick, which then brought out the Jemele Hill's of the world to claim Goddell was a racist. Now he is back to not doing enough again. <br /><br />Certainly in this instance Goddell has failed miserably. But the media wants a narrative and the moral high ground to try and lord their superiority over the rest of us. Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-44167696594303370442014-09-30T16:07:08.752-04:002014-09-30T16:07:08.752-04:00"...and Peter dedicates an entire page to Der..."...and Peter dedicates an entire page to Derek Jeter. Because this is an NFL column, you know."<br /><br />I was listening to the MNF pregame in the car last night, and I kid you not, Brady was asked about how Derek Jeter retiring impacts him. Jeter was a very good player and will/should be a first ballot hall of famer, but this is getting out of hand. <br />Snarfnoreply@blogger.com