tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post8071374006650922728..comments2023-10-31T06:31:41.395-04:00Comments on Bottom of the Barrel: MMQB Review: It's Still Happening EditionBengoodfellahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-28079436177954601942011-12-08T08:59:38.551-05:002011-12-08T08:59:38.551-05:00Ivn, you are probably right about that in some way...Ivn, you are probably right about that in some ways. That does make sense. It still seems weird to me to me when it is done in the context of sports, but I probably should get over it. <br /><br />Despite what I have been accused of a couple times, I am a Christian. I would find it hard to tell a person who has a life threatening disease this is all a part of God's plan. Perhaps that is a result of a lack of faith or a personal failing on my part. I can see where the person with the disease could accept it as God's plan, but for some reason it changes a bit when a healthy person tells the sick person this. Either way, Tebow is a great guy. <br /><br />God loves the Steelers. We all know that. Also, God loves UNC-Chapel Hill, which is why the sky is Carolina blue. I've heard this my entire life.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-43640176718815431582011-12-07T16:50:28.820-05:002011-12-07T16:50:28.820-05:00I'm a little late to this, but when Tebow than...I'm a little late to this, but when Tebow thanks God, I don't think he's actually saying, "Yeah I totally have to give props to God for directing Ponder's last pass straight to Andre Goodman," I think he's praising God for giving him (and his team) an opportunity to prove how good they are, or something like that. <br /><br />I'm not a religious man so I can't explain it perfectly, but that seems to be how a lot of devout Christians view things: God doesn't literally pull all of the strings but puts people in positions to prove themselves. If a religious athlete succeeds — and I'm very roughly paraphrasing here — he wouldn't have done it without God putting him in that position, and if he fails it wasn't the end of the world, because he knows God will grant him another opportunity to succeed. <br /><br />you hear it a lot, "Oh, so God pushed that last second field goal wide left? Guess He hates the Steelers!" but I don't think that's how most people faith (except for the extremist whackjobs, I imagine) operate.ivnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-51228458520300331462011-12-07T13:24:01.208-05:002011-12-07T13:24:01.208-05:00Eric, that's a very interesting way of looking...Eric, that's a very interesting way of looking at it. So you are saying some people think Tebow lacks humility when he talks a/b God's plan for a leukemia patient and attributes the positive things that happen to him on the football field to God?Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-91405395042854395872011-12-07T09:34:13.029-05:002011-12-07T09:34:13.029-05:00I think the religious aspect of the Tebow controve...I think the religious aspect of the Tebow controversy (which often gets too entwined with the football aspect of the Tebow controversy)isn't so much a faith vs. nonfaith issue, it's just that different people have different ideas of what "humility" means and how it should be expressed in everyday life.Ericbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-13963843492584768772011-12-07T09:01:37.455-05:002011-12-07T09:01:37.455-05:00Anon, Peter's power rankings are pretty silly ...Anon, Peter's power rankings are pretty silly as it is, but he doesn't seem to use one definite standard for them. I can't believe I missed that contradiction. How terrible. Apparently three games doesn't make a trend, unless it does make a trend. <br /><br />"Glad I don't have a Heisman vote. If I did, I'd have to watch tons more college football, and I'd have to make what seems like an impossible choice between all these good quarterbacks and players like Montee Ball, Robert Griffin III, Trent Richardson and Justin Blackmon."<br /><br />I can't believe I missed that wording. It doesn't appear Peter knows RG3 is a quarterback, does it? I wonder if he thinks he is a running back or something. I still can't believe I missed that. There needs to be a MMQB Review Review for the things I missed this week. <br /><br />Martin, you would probably be thrown in jail for all of eternity if you kicked Tebow in the nuts. Tebow is a great guy and I know he probably has good intentions, but it seems easier to say it is God's plan we he isn't the one with leukemia. I am sure Tebow wouldn't agree with your point of view. <br /><br />Eric, I think I have seen him in those prayer circles, but I can't be sure. I think he has participated, but I have no proof.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-35604383333468247572011-12-07T08:48:17.466-05:002011-12-07T08:48:17.466-05:00I've seen that after games Christian players f...I've seen that after games Christian players from both teams often get together for small prayer circles. Has anyone ever seen Tebow participate in one of these?Ericbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-3233510041809466462011-12-07T05:51:40.793-05:002011-12-07T05:51:40.793-05:00Robert Griffin, the likely Heisman winner, the QB....Robert Griffin, the likely Heisman winner, the QB.<br /><br />And God's plan is for me to kick Tebow in the nuts if I ever see him and then tell him it wasn't assault, it was part of God's plan. He's a nice kid who wants to do good things, but people who work the "God's plan" angle are messed up in the head. God gave humans free will. That was his plan. After that it's all about us doing or not doing what we do.Martin F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14565240074256943063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-71030045763120043062011-12-07T01:28:23.098-05:002011-12-07T01:28:23.098-05:00I'm surprised you didn't pick up on the fa...I'm surprised you didn't pick up on the fact that it appears Peter King is unaware that Robert Griffin III is a QBAronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-55952765359091572602011-12-07T00:02:10.196-05:002011-12-07T00:02:10.196-05:00I would like to add in this gem from his Fine Fift...I would like to add in this gem from his Fine Fifteen. Right before he starts off with the Packers at #1 he states:<br /><br />"You're out, Bengals. Three games against Baltimore and Pittsburgh in the last 22 days. Three losses. Foes 90, Cincinnati 48."<br /><br />Then just a few lines down he says this about the Ravens:<br /><br />"3. Baltimore (9-3). Three games do not a trend make, and so I did not purchase the one about the Ravens not being able to beat bad teams after emotional wins. Just too weird."<br /><br /><br />So 3 games are definitely enough to damn the Bengals to hell, but 3 games are definitely not enough to cast some doubt on the Ravens??<br /><br />Peter is a dick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-89488043646171868512011-12-06T19:34:15.104-05:002011-12-06T19:34:15.104-05:00Rich, that takes a lot of faith (and honestly a li...Rich, that takes a lot of faith (and honestly a little bit of hubris) to tell a kid that him having leukemia is a part of God's plan for him. <br /><br />I really hope no one thinks God is revealing himself to us throw Tebow's play. That sounds a bit odd. Why would any God care about an organized sport? This is why religion and sports don't mix. <br /><br />I'm a Christian too, but I am not sure I could tell a kid that having a life-threatening illness is a part of God's plan. Tebow obviously doesn't mean anything bad in doing this, but it shows me a little bit about he does have a bit of an ego since he most likely thinks God's plan for him involves being a super-famous athlete. <br /><br />Maybe God only helps in the fourth quarter or when things get tight. I'm not going to criticize Tebow's beliefs, but I think those people who believe his performance on the field is God revealing himself are looking into it too much. <br /><br />What's so interesting is Tebow works his butt off to get better at playing football. I would think he could keep his beliefs while also acknowledge his hard work has put him in this position. As I have stated, those who say good things happen for the Broncos b/c of God revealing himself are also essentially saying God is crapping all over other Christian athletes who don't have such luck.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-31640998738095618902011-12-06T19:00:05.588-05:002011-12-06T19:00:05.588-05:00Ben,
That's the thing that gets me laughing. ...Ben,<br /><br />That's the thing that gets me laughing. Some Tebow fans actually think that God has blessed Tim and that this is God's way of revealing himself to us.<br /><br />It's like yes, absolutely. God decided not to end war, famine, suicide or crime, but instead once a week he works his magic to help the Broncos play football.<br /><br />I'm a Christian and I want nothing of a God who cares about who wins or losses a football game.<br /><br />What's even funnier still is that if it takes the most powerful entity in the universe to help the Broncos win... doesn't that mean that Tebow sucks?<br /><br />To me Tebow sounds like those really naive Christians who have to find God in everything. It's really easy to say "it's all part of God's plan" when you're blessed with money and talent, but it's not so easy to hear that when you're in a bad place.<br /><br />As a Christian, I agree that it's all part of God's plan, but it's sanctimonious to say tell a kid that he's dying all because of God's plan.richnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-65749886313930526702011-12-06T18:16:12.102-05:002011-12-06T18:16:12.102-05:00Jack, I had thought about writing something like t...Jack, I had thought about writing something like that. It was just too cruel and fate-tempting for me to do. I don't know what Blake Appleton would have preferred, but I have to think at some point during his fight with leukemia having his name in a newspaper column isn't exactly one of his top concerns. Maybe it is fun to see his name in print, but I would think any attention from Tebow would be great as well. <br /><br />Tebow does seem like a great guy, but other athletes do great things for people too. Tebow's M.O. is to be really, really kind...which he is really, really kind. Let's not get that twisted up. At a certain point, it does feel like a politician talking about all the "real" people he has talked to along the campaign trail. <br /><br />Ericb, they weren't blessed obviously. I am very careful to mix religion into anything. I just don't know if the idea of God "blessing" a team is relevant to sports or not. I'd like to think he has more important issues to work on at the present time.<br /><br />I've brought this up before, but I just can't help but wonder what this means for guys like John Kasay. A guy who kicked the ball out of bounds to help lose a Super Bowl. He's a faithful guy, so why didn't God bless him on that kick. How about Thomas Davis? He's torn his ACL three times in three years. Maybe that's the plan for his life, but what has he done not be blessed like Tebow. Sports and religion is a dangerous mix. <br /><br />Rich, I don't think Luck and Manning can co-exist. I'd be interested to see what would happen with Luck behind that offensive line. You don't want to pass up Luck, but there are so many holes on that team. Wouldn't it be okay to draft a guy who has talent but may not be NFL-ready this year and wouldn't mind sitting a bit to get more players around him? Maybe not. Luck could end up being as good as advertised and would cover up the deficiencies of the roster. <br /><br />10-6. Crazy. <br /><br />They just need to give the Heisman trophy to Andrew Luck. We know he'll win it. Peter is pretty busy, so I guess he hasn't had a chance to look at all the players. He should just do what the rest of the Heisman voters do. Vote for the player closest to your approximate region. <br /><br />I hate Reyes is still in the NL East, but I don't hate the Mets move. That's a lot of money for a guy gets injured and relies a lot on his speed. Sure, the contract is only until he is 34 years old, but $100 million for Reyes isn't the best move for the Mets right now.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-88384818784113794862011-12-06T15:29:20.930-05:002011-12-06T15:29:20.930-05:004. If the playoffs began today, Cincinnati and Chi...<b>4. If the playoffs began today, Cincinnati and Chicago would be in. That's why I'm glad the playoffs don't begin today.</b><br /><br />Who does TMQ want to see in the playoffs? There aren't really many better options than those two.<br /><br /><b>maybe the best story overall.</b><br /><br />Ahahahahahahah the best story overall? Bwhahahaha.<br /><br /><b>Chris Polian have to make a decision whether to keep Manning around for 2012.</b><br /><br />Is there a decision to make? Manning or a rookie who will get killed behind that o-line.<br /><br /><b>13. New York Giants (6-6). How nutty is this: The Giants have lost four in a row, and if they win out in the last four weeks, they win the division.</b><br /><br />If they win their next four, they'll end up 10-6. There were three 10-6 divisional winners last year. Nutty.<br /><br /><b>I'd have to make what seems like an impossible choice between all these good quarterbacks and players like Montee Ball, Robert Griffin III, Trent Richardson and Justin Blackmon. Tough, tough year.</b><br /><br />You'd think an NFL analyst would want to stay on top of the best college players, since they'll someday be playing in the NFL. <br /><br />Also, even your casual college fan would be able to wittle the field down to the 5 finalists. Once you've got your 5, then your work load isn't that bad.<br /><br /><b>Jose Reyes to Miami: It had to happen. The Mets weren't going to pay him real money.</b><br /><br />He's a 28 year old coming off three years in which he spent considerable time on the DL. Ya, heaven forbid the Mets not give him 100M.<br /><br />I actually like what the Mets did. What they were doing clearly wasn't going to work, so why not cut your losses with certain players who aren't a part of your long term goal?<br /><br />Sure, the Mets will spend a couple years being terrible, but with the money they save from Reyes and (if traded) Wright, they'll be in good shape financially.<br /><br />Basically: why suck, spend a ton of money doing it and have no hope of improving?richnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-10741029331044676182011-12-06T14:59:27.584-05:002011-12-06T14:59:27.584-05:00It was sure nice of God to injure Jay Cutler and M...It was sure nice of God to injure Jay Cutler and Matt Forte so that Denver has a chance to beat Chicago this week.Ericbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-49386448327779819852011-12-06T14:54:20.362-05:002011-12-06T14:54:20.362-05:00" ... I had an opportunity to talk with a kid..." ... I had an opportunity to talk with a kid named Blake Appleton, from Florida, on Thursday. He's a leukemia patient who's just been moved to hospice. And after the game, when I was being interviewed on TV, I got to say his name."<br /><br />"That's what I'm proud of today. I let him know people cared about him. I let him know God has a plan for him."<br /><br /><br />Blake Appleton: So Mr. Tebow, God's plan for me is to have me stricken with leukemia, go through immeasurable suffering, be transferred to hospice care, and die before my life really has a chance to begin?? THAT PLAN FUCKING SUCKS!!<br /><br />Seriously, I think Tebow seems like a genuinely nice guy. I think he does a great job using his celebrity status to help those in need. That being said, I have a problem with him just name dropping this kid in an interview with PK. There are countless athletes (Jay Cutler springs to mind) who do a great deal of charity work who don't want the acknowledgement (or in Cutler's case, actively try to keep the stories out of the press) and recognition for being such good guys. Tebow has to at least have enough self-awareness to know how much the dopey press will eat an anecdote like that up. I have a feeling that shout-out might mean a little more to the young Blake Appleton if it was a moment that only Tebow and him shared instead of being column filler in a shitty weekly football column.<br /><br />"And that was the end of the Tebow interview. He had to rush to get on the bus to the airport. Except ...<br /><br />"Have a good day, Mr. King. And God bless you."<br /><br />Odds that PK had an erection when Tebow said this to him: 100%jacktotheracknoreply@blogger.com