tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post811548923527423457..comments2023-10-31T06:31:41.395-04:00Comments on Bottom of the Barrel: Rick Telander Gets Bored, Does a Hack Job on Jay CutlerBengoodfellahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-53534931318258685402012-02-10T14:44:31.836-05:002012-02-10T14:44:31.836-05:00It was Eli's leadership skills that caused 49&...It was Eli's leadership skills that caused 49'er defenders to twice run into each other and not get the interception he was so desperately trying to throw them.Martin F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14565240074256943063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-29352859329731748982012-02-10T13:46:11.941-05:002012-02-10T13:46:11.941-05:00Done. I finally came to terms with the fact you wo...Done. I finally came to terms with the fact you won.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-80395588245264984122012-02-10T10:35:00.050-05:002012-02-10T10:35:00.050-05:00update the pickoffapaloozaupdate the pickoffapaloozaJ.S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07739810404427202914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-35834678581992656212012-02-10T09:49:51.481-05:002012-02-10T09:49:51.481-05:00Rich, exactly. Making the Super Bowl does usually ...Rich, exactly. Making the Super Bowl does usually require a competent or upper tier QB, but it is also a sign of how good a team may be. The Ravens almost made the Super Bowl this year. Joe Flacco is their QB. The 49ers were a fumble away from the Super Bowl and everyone had given up on Alex Smith. <br /><br />"Leader" is a label given to a player based on his team's achievements in many cases. It's hard to say Cutler isn't a leader, especially when the Bears suck w/o him but are a playoff team with him? How can Telander ignore this??<br />Suck without him, are a playoff team w/ him. Clearly, he has something that helps the Bears win games. <br /><br />I find it funny that the media hates on Cutler like they do b/c he's a dick to them. Sure, he needs to work on his happy face more, but that doesn't mean anything regarding his professional life in the locker room. <br /><br />I think you got a lot of the personnel issues correct. Cutler needs a better line and some WR. Once he gets those, and if he struggles, there are no excuses to be made for him. <br /><br />Jack, I am torn on the Forte issue. While giving him a long-term deal seems really ill-advised, it just seems like the Bears need to do that to keep their best offensive player around. Still, long-term contracts to running backs aren't always a good risk and could they replace 80% of his production at 20% of the price by drafting a running back?Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-41816694308083686542012-02-10T07:49:28.362-05:002012-02-10T07:49:28.362-05:00Rich you nailed it when it comes to the Bears woes...Rich you nailed it when it comes to the Bears woes. Matt Forte deserves some sort of award for being so cool with how his whole contract situation has gone down. I don't really blame the Bears for not overpaying for him when they still had the franchise tag to use, but for Forte to come out and say he's perfectly fine with that as long as it leads to a long term deal made me respect him even more.jacktotheracknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-42842510725763535772012-02-09T18:25:56.794-05:002012-02-09T18:25:56.794-05:00The quarterbacks for the New England Patriots and ...<b>The quarterbacks for the New England Patriots and New York Giants, respectively, will be making their seventh combined Super Bowl appearances (five for Brady, two for Manning), with four victories — and a fifth guaranteed — and three MVP awards between them.</b><br /><br />Rodgers has a Super Bowl win and MVP;<br />Brees has a Super Bowl win and MVP.<br /><br />So basically this sentence would have worked if three teams won the NFC. Bang up sentence there Rick.<br /><br /><b>But it takes something special to be a Super Bowl quarterback — one with a good chance to win, that is — and besides skill, good luck and a lack of injuries, it has to do with that intangible that simply can be labeled ‘‘Leader.’’</b><br /><br />Right. Trent Dilfer - Leader! Kerry Collins (who played against Trent Dilfer in that SB) - Leader! Rex Grossman - Leader! So on so forth.<br /><br />Plenty of mediocre QBs have made/"won" the Super Bowl because the Super Bowl is a reflection of the team. The fact that the Bears went from playoff contention to fucking atrocious without Cutler tells me that Cutler is important to the Bears.<br /><br /><b>Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger and others — Cutler seems to lack that extra ‘‘something.’’</b><br /><br />Big Ben gets to the SB twice on the coattails of a great defense - he has something extra. <br /><br />Cutler - grumpy to the media - lacks that something extra.<br /><br />Nevermind that Big Ben is three times the asshole that Cutler is. Cutler may hate the media (which makes him a hero in my opinion) and sulk, but at least he doesn't rape women.<br /><br /><b>But Cutler’s disconnect is a trait that has to be dissected because it might be the one thing that will prevent the Bears from achieving the heights of success</b><br /><br /><i>THEY MADE THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME LAST YEAR</i>. <br /><br />So you have a QB whose team played well last year, whose team was overachieving this year and yet he'll keep them from reaching the "heights of success?"<br /><br />A team that once road Kyle Orton and Sexy Rexy to a Super Bowl (that they almost won) and yet, they can't reach the same level of accomplishment with a better QB?<br /><br />You know what the problems for the Bears are: a shitty front office.<br /><br />You have an aging defense that they've done nothing to revitalize and a pathetic offensive line that they did nothing to improve.<br /><br />Then they told the only offensive weapon they have to fuck off and die when he asked for an extension.<br /><br />Also, like Jack said, you put a poor offensive line and a group of practice squad caliber WRs in a Martz oriented scheme and you're asking for trouble.<br /><br />Not only did Martz not take advantage of Cutler's skill set, all credit to Jack, but it also didn't take into account the awful lack of talent the offense has.<br /><br />If you have no offensive line and no WRs, then you can't run and gun. The fact that Cutler basically fought Martz during the season should tell you all you need to know about how stupid that scheme is. <br /><br />Magically, once they changed it, they started winning!richnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-3387995294308537002012-02-09T16:40:45.319-05:002012-02-09T16:40:45.319-05:00Jack, not a fan of Telander's overall work I c...Jack, not a fan of Telander's overall work I can see. Perhaps I should bookmark his archive to check up on him more frequently if he is truly this bad. <br /><br />I believe this article is a result of Telander not liking Cutler and that crap about the anonymous source means very little to me. Who knows who the hell that is in the Bears organization? Guys who are assholes can win Super Bowls. Part of being a pro athlete is playing the media game, but I think guys like Cutler get extra shit because they don't play the game very well. <br /><br />What Cutler is missing is an offensive line. He needs a better offensive line and some receivers. Once he gets those, I would feel better about judging him. All I know at this point is the Bears were terrible without him and a playoff team without him. I don't think Cutler has that great of WR/OL, so it is hard for me to judge his inability to make a Super Bowl too harshly. Not to mention, he was injured last year in the NFC Championship Game. Who knows what happens if he is healthy? I would like to see Cutler get some good receivers and what he can do now that the non-genius Mike Martz is gone. <br /><br />I don't care about the Hollywood crap and what Telander fails to realize is a ton of NFL QB's have some sort of Hollywood connection. Aaron Rodgers seems to have dated a revolving door of "famous" women and he hasn't seemed to struggle in making a Super Bowl.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-39020888397343157232012-02-09T15:08:12.263-05:002012-02-09T15:08:12.263-05:00Let me start this comment by saying Rick Telander ...Let me start this comment by saying Rick Telander sucks. Not just in this column, he sucks constantly. The man hasn't had a cogent thought since the 90's and this fucking travesty of an article is further evidence that its time for him to be put out to pasture. <br /><br />Having said that, I love how all these people in the sports media act like people, specifically Bears fans in this case, should give two shits that Jay Cutler isn't a nice guy to the press. Who cares? What fan really gives a shit about that? I wouldn't want to talk to any of these assholes either. All they are looking for is some sort of "gotcha" quote they can run to make the player look bad, and if the player doesn't give the press exactly what they want, they bitch and moan about what a disagreeable guy the player is. Well fuck that, I'd have the exact same attitude as Cutler if I had to deal with people like Telander and Rick Morrissey everyday. <br /><br />And thank you for nailing exactly what the "something" Jay Cutler is missing is. Better players, especially a better offensive line, around him. I would also add that I felt Martz didn't take advantage of Cutler's biggest strengths (athleticism and ability to throw outside the pocket) and I am hoping that Tice will fix that. But I don't know why anyone would be shocked that a QB who has Frank Omiyale, JaMarcus Webb, and Lance Louis as his tackles and a receiving corps led by Earl Bennett has failed to win a ring. <br /><br />And all that Hollywood shit, my God, who cares? What a shit column, I think I'd rather read TMQ than this crap.jacktotheracknoreply@blogger.com