tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post8133841029615545691..comments2023-10-31T06:31:41.395-04:00Comments on Bottom of the Barrel: How About A Partial Peter King Friday?Bengoodfellahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-29250114543132835232009-10-10T23:22:02.713-04:002009-10-10T23:22:02.713-04:00Ben,
I don't have to tell you this but the g...Ben, <br /><br />I don't have to tell you this but the guy is an asshole. He basicall called the hbo docs old fashioned and said they sucked when it's not true at all. I realize he has to support his baby, but he could have done it without dissing HBO. So he made the comparison and that's what I judged it against. The only thing modern about it is what Martin said about the quick cuts and cloud shots. Next week, we get a cutting edge ripped from the headlines story on a marching band. Be still my heart! That is much better than a documentary on the greatest baseball hitter who ever lived, who was also a hall of fame fisherman and war hero AND had his head frozen less than ten years ago.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14911062971730250365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-56626761193686391582009-10-10T23:13:41.778-04:002009-10-10T23:13:41.778-04:00Well I think Simmons is going to defend the doc ju...Well I think Simmons is going to defend the doc just because it was really his idea and he was behind it so much. It was his baby, so he either thinks or wants to think it is different from anything else that has been done. I guess they were going for more modern. Busy sports weekend but its on my list at some point.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-30796895227084334952009-10-10T23:04:36.628-04:002009-10-10T23:04:36.628-04:00Yeah the documentary is fairly good, but Simmons i...Yeah the documentary is fairly good, but Simmons is the one who made the mistake of comparing it to the HBO docs and it does not stand up vs. the best of those.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14911062971730250365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-10437486767630351802009-10-10T22:54:23.073-04:002009-10-10T22:54:23.073-04:00I'd definitely watch the show Ben. It's wo...I'd definitely watch the show Ben. It's worth watching, but it's not great, and with so many very good to excellent sports docs the last 5 years or so, it's kinda disappointing in comparison.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00086638597582394978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-84613869473365374092009-10-10T18:45:51.387-04:002009-10-10T18:45:51.387-04:00I still want to see the 30 for 30 on my own and ma...I still want to see the 30 for 30 on my own and make up my mind for myself but it doesn't sound very good from what you guys are telling me. I will be sure to report back about what I thought about it. I am not going to give up on it if I don't like the first doc though. I think I will give it a shot. <br /><br />Gene, I haven't heard anyone give him hell for screwing up the home run call last night. Everyone may forget because of the excitement of the gameBengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-77931382774266170342009-10-10T17:35:07.755-04:002009-10-10T17:35:07.755-04:00Did Chip catch any heat in the papers for the non-...Did Chip catch any heat in the papers for the non-call this morning? I have not seen anything.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14911062971730250365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-12552627244320715272009-10-10T16:48:53.502-04:002009-10-10T16:48:53.502-04:00The LA Kings through their Fox Sports affiliate di...The LA Kings through their Fox Sports affiliate did a better job covering this a decade ago. It was narrated by Bob Miller, the Kings excellent play by play guy, and gave you a better sense of what the trade meant to Canada, and Edmonton, while showing the huge impact it had on hockey in the U.S. It too was only an hour long, and was much better in my opinion.<br /><br />I hope the USFL one is better, I'm looking forward to it. I also want to give some props to Simmons. Even if these all turn out kinda "meh" it was a good idea, and from everything I've read, something he did push at ESPN. Even if in the end the execution is flawed, it was a good idea.<br /><br />CHIP! CHIP! Was it a home run or not, I'm still waiting for the call....Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00086638597582394978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-35311412280345795292009-10-10T13:43:35.931-04:002009-10-10T13:43:35.931-04:00I am with you Martin. It was like an indy film ma...I am with you Martin. It was like an indy film maker who finally had some budget for special effects. The quick cuts and cloud shots were distracting. They said they tried to make this for the younger audiences and tried to draw them in with that "Edgy" approach.<br /><br />I still say it's all about the story and they were talking about a twenty year old hockey trade in a not very compelling way. The viewership was minscule due to the baseball running long.<br /><br />They do have some topics coming up in which I am interested. Hope they dod a better job with them.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14911062971730250365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-16000107260277747572009-10-10T12:50:55.799-04:002009-10-10T12:50:55.799-04:00I watched the Gretzky doc. Not that impressed. Are...I watched the Gretzky doc. Not that impressed. Areas I wanted covered more seemed to be dropped so the director Berg could put in more quick cuts and nebulous shots of skyline and clouds. I felt like I was watching a documentary done by a talented college student, and that's about it. Bob Ley and behind the lines have nothing to fear from Peter Berg.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00086638597582394978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-11330102441610478262009-10-09T22:20:20.658-04:002009-10-09T22:20:20.658-04:00I believe Ralph Wiley was a part of that team as w...I believe Ralph Wiley was a part of that team as well...at least for a little while. Wasn't Whitlock in there also, or am I wrong about that? I miss Dr. Z for sure. I was a little bit against how all the proceeds from his benefit went only to him...I would have preferred if others could have been helped, but I would love to see Dr. Z back ASAP. <br /><br />I am not in the NYC area but I know the blog SportsTalkBash is usually all over that type stuff but AwesomeSean has been pretty quiet this week. I am not sure what the deal has been. I got the "Kings Ransom" DVRd and have some high hopes for it, I don't want to be let down. <br /><br />Klosterman is not everyone's cup of team, but I would love to read "Breaks of the Game," but it is not in my local library. That's bullshit. <br /><br />ESPN just seems more interested in making the news and less interested in reporting it (or choosing what to report)as the case may be. I think they may have a Page 2 problem when Simmons leaves. <br /><br />I heard the Chip Caray call. I don't think he knew if the ball was fair or foul so he just didn't talk. Not the best policy. He hasn't really bothered me as much tonight but that was an egregious mistake. You can't give the audience dead air to listen to, especially on a potential home run. He can be brutal at times.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-38971917276898608572009-10-09T21:22:36.551-04:002009-10-09T21:22:36.551-04:00A review of Chip's performance:
http://bases....A review of Chip's performance:<br /><br />http://bases.nbcsports.com/2009/10/its-going-to-be-a-looooong-postseason-on-tbs.html.phpUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14911062971730250365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-69967426902272568022009-10-09T20:49:42.200-04:002009-10-09T20:49:42.200-04:00Martin,
And I think 15 seconds was an accurate es...Martin,<br /><br />And I think 15 seconds was an accurate estimate of the time the chrickets chirped. As you know, that is an eternity on live television. I did not know it was foul until I saw Tex standing back at the plate.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14911062971730250365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-80459075040241839702009-10-09T20:31:05.353-04:002009-10-09T20:31:05.353-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14911062971730250365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-66860889758863548972009-10-09T20:23:52.884-04:002009-10-09T20:23:52.884-04:00Dan,
Just want to agree with you on the legend st...Dan,<br /><br />Just want to agree with you on the legend status of Halberstam. Even Simmons knows that he is not in the guys class and has quoted The Breaks of the Game as one of his favorite books. I have to agree with Bill on that one.<br /><br />The more ESPN dominates the worse the quality becomes.<br /><br />Speaking of low quality, did anyone hear Caray not make a call on the Texiera foul ball? 15 seconds of silence. This guy is a train wreck. It was loveable when Harry pulled this stuff, with Chip it is just annoying.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14911062971730250365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-89694690286069805772009-10-09T20:17:20.974-04:002009-10-09T20:17:20.974-04:00Great post on the BS/MF feud? Are you in NYC area...Great post on the BS/MF feud? Are you in NYC area? Would love to hear more of your takes on the daily rants of Mike Francesa.<br /><br />I caught Simmons modern and completely timely documentary on the twenty year old Gretzk trade. I generall love the ones on HBO, but this one was much more boring to me.<br /><br />They completely gave Gretzky a pass and ignored what could have been the one intersting part of the story which is: How much did WG actually want this trade?<br /><br />They acted like he was stunned and hurt by the whole thing, but I think he at least partially wanted it to be able to make more money and please Hollywood actress Yoko Ono, er I mean Janet Jones.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14911062971730250365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-11321312489206556862009-10-09T19:16:53.779-04:002009-10-09T19:16:53.779-04:00I remember the Page 2 of yesterday.
They had Davi...I remember the Page 2 of yesterday.<br /><br />They had David Halberstam writing for them who was a legend. Hunter S Thompson: legend. Chuck Klosterman who I like, but is not everyones cup of tea and Bill Simmons before he ran out of new jokes. <br /><br />I wonder if I am forgetting anybody else, but at that time it was really an amazing collection of diverse talent. Sad to see what it has become. Also, that kind of gets me thinking of Paul Zimmerman, I do know we have given peter king a hard time about it but I am beginning to miss dr z's columns. He took football seriously, knew a lot about it but didnt take himself seriously which is what I thought made him a great writer.dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-81700533872635809662009-10-09T16:50:21.009-04:002009-10-09T16:50:21.009-04:00That is what I thought happened. So he would have ...That is what I thought happened. So he would have to have 2 contract years. After two years of great contract year production means if his demands are too high they can franchise him or just not re-sign him. I am getting WAY ahead of myself, I know, but I think it has to be a part of the consideration in this trade.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-29944673769402532752009-10-09T15:05:44.730-04:002009-10-09T15:05:44.730-04:00This is Edwards 5th season. If they tendered him ...This is Edwards 5th season. If they tendered him after this year, and he plays, he will have accrued the 6th season, so he will then be unrestricted. Thus, they can only tender him for one year if the CBA is not changed before next season.RuleBooknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-58744181979769305182009-10-09T14:59:59.640-04:002009-10-09T14:59:59.640-04:00Rulebook, ok I get you. I think that makes sense. ...Rulebook, ok I get you. I think that makes sense. It still seems kind of silly to me. It's like if a sportswriter voted a Mariano Rivera 3rd in the MVP race and he didn't win the Rolaids Relief Award (or whatever it is called now). <br /><br />I guess the two definitions can be different then, but still it brings up the point of how the hell Flacco is playing better than Brees. <br /><br />I have no idea how Darren Sharper is not on the list. That's a great question. <br /><br />I thought about the uncapped year, so if he plays out the uncapped year at the highest tender, which would be a steal for them (in theory), what happens the year after that? It's interesting but I just wonder when they can stop tendering him, is it when he accrues 6 years of service? <br /><br />Kent, what surprised me the most is that they Browns even traded Edwards. It looks like Mangini has permission to completely start over, which I don't know how that is going to work. He is trying to mold the team to what he wants and anyone not on board has to leave. I don't know about the trade either. It seems to me Edwards is a guy who is never happy. Of course it was a pretty good risk to take for the Jets because if it works then they have a #1 receiver.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-36268490854106180572009-10-09T14:51:13.190-04:002009-10-09T14:51:13.190-04:00I'm skeptical about the Braylon Edwards trade....I'm skeptical about the Braylon Edwards trade. I know the quarterbacks get the blame, but Edwards dropped passes in college, and has continued to do so in the pros. Going from the media Siberia of the NFL to New York isn't going to help that. And if Mangenius' job is secure in Cleveland, it means the Browns' management isn't even pretending to care any more.KentAllardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16034050997693995004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-54346401158430978682009-10-09T14:18:17.575-04:002009-10-09T14:18:17.575-04:00Here's a little tip to amateur list makers out...<b>Here's a little tip to amateur list makers out there: If you are going to make a list for MVP that includes three offensive players, generally it makes sense to have all three offensive players be in the same order for Offensive Player of the Year as well. </b> <br /><br />Actually, this is common practice due to the supposed purpose of the awards. To many sports writers, the MVP is the player who is most valuable to his team (i.e., the player whose team would suffer the greatest difference in wins without him). The offensive player of the year is simply the best offensive player.<br /><br />Under that definition (which is the only logical reason for the two lists to be different), King is saying that Flacco is a better offensive player than Brees, but that the Saints would suffer more without without Brees than the Ravens would without Flacco. Of course anyone saying that Flacco is playing better than Brees shouldn't be making lists anyway.<br /><br /><b> Defensive Player Of The Year<br />1. Darrelle Revis, CB, Jets.<br />2. Elvis Dumervil, OLB, Broncos.<br />3. Jared Allen, DE, Minnesota. </b> <br /><br />How on earth is Darren Sharper not on this list? In 4 games, he has 5 INTs and 2 TDs (the TDs being 97 and 99 yds).<br /><br /><b> Obviously the Jets can't NOT re-sign Edwards because they traded a couple of draft picks for him and it just wouldn't seem to make sense to let him go after 12 games if the Jets gave up picks to get him. </b> <br /><br />This is where the story gets interesting. Under the current CBA, a player is an unrestricted free agent after 4 accrued seasons. However, as part of the 2010 poison pill, in the uncapped year, a player is only a free agent after 6 accrued seasons. Most of the 1st round picks in 2005 signed 5 year deals (which is fairly standard), including Edwards. Thus, if a new CBA is not signed before next season, Edwards will be a Restricted Free<br />Agent, and the Jets can give him the top tender, which will be much cheaper than any long term contract he might sign, and another team would have to surrender a 1st and 3rd round pick in order to sign him.RuleBooknoreply@blogger.com