tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post815211880379389247..comments2023-10-31T06:31:41.395-04:00Comments on Bottom of the Barrel: Ten Things I Think I Think Peter King Has Not Thought Of: NBA Playoffs and Troublemaker EditionBengoodfellahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-36783609575240323662009-05-21T09:49:39.137-04:002009-05-21T09:49:39.137-04:00I am usually pretty negative about my teams as wel...I am usually pretty negative about my teams as well but I feel pretty good about Carolina this year, though they do have a tough schedule and they got lucky at the end of some games last year, so I don't expect the same success. Of course since I am being positive, that means it will all go downhill from there. I should be negative to pretend like I expect the 6-10 year that could happen. <br /><br />In my mind, its pretty clear James over Howard would be the right call 9 times out of 10. Howard's area of strengths are not that much stronger than James' ability in the same category, while James has strengths that Howard doesn't even come close to. <br /><br />I was surprised to see Orlando beat Cleveland last night. They took their foot off the gas too early it looks like. <br /><br />I go around all day talking about what morons the American public are. I thin maybe I am overestimating them. He brings home some golds and all is forgiven, even though there was really not that much to forgive in the first place.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-56536266043351267012009-05-21T08:51:36.551-04:002009-05-21T08:51:36.551-04:00No, don't worry about it. I'm assuming the Falcon...No, don't worry about it. I'm assuming the Falcons are going to have a bad year this year. They're never had back-to-back winning seasons, so something bad is going to happen. I can totally see Turner getting hurt after shattering his career high for carries last year. And I don't know how much Gonzalez has left, but I was glad they made the trade so they didn't pick a TE in the first round. Although they picked the guy I wanted them to this year, so that probably won't work out.<br /><br />Also, people talk about Howard being DPOY, but LeBron was second in the voting, so it's not loke Howard has a huge advantage there.<br /><br />I think you're overestimating the American public, BGF. I think they will forget about Phelps' misdeeds if he brings home a bunch more gold medals in 2012. Josh Hamilton is the name that comes to mind there, along with Brett Favre, as people who have bettled drug/addiction problems and pretty much erased them from peoples' memories, or turned them into an advantage. Not that I know, or care, really, that Phelps has a "problem," per se.The Caseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03323030436625176444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-37304993002992566912009-05-21T07:59:35.602-04:002009-05-21T07:59:35.602-04:00Well, that's boring. Ortiz homered? I knew the sec...Well, that's boring. Ortiz homered? I knew the second I posted something about it, he would homer. I tore Garrett Anderson up in the comments last week and then he went 3-5 with 3 RBI the next night. I prefer rational debate as well, we'll save the anger for another post.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-61390625452580093882009-05-20T22:32:30.126-04:002009-05-20T22:32:30.126-04:00well Ortiz did homer tonight (thank god). Hopefu...well Ortiz did homer tonight (thank god). Hopefully this is a turning point. <br /><br />Nah, I'm all good with an angry war in the comments section. I'm more for the rational debate thing. However, I got way too much sun today so I'm tired as fuck, I'll save it for another day.Fred Triggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16980604002168881166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-45728547545760442072009-05-20T21:13:04.836-04:002009-05-20T21:13:04.836-04:00I can't even tell you how dumb Howard v. James tru...I can't even tell you how dumb Howard v. James truly is in my opinion. There's no doubt it is James and it tells me something about NBA personnel guys that they don't immediately say James. <br /><br />I hate agreeing with you Chris because it looks like I changed my mind but when reading that article I could not help but think about guys like Gerald Green, Kwame Brown, and many of those that got drafted in the second round. I think the numbers Parish was pulling out proved you don't need to go to college to be a top flight scorer in the NBA, but really no one was arguing that point. I think players should go to college for two years maximum or go straight to the NBA after college. <br /><br />I don't know if using scoring is the best measurement also. I think someone should put together a study, and I would love to do this, to see what percentage of flameouts came from HS and those flameouts that came from college to see if players who came directly from HS have a higher ceiling but also a lower "basement" in the NBA. Basically if they have as much of a chance of flaming out as they do becoming a star. That would interest me. I thought it was interesting that so many players led their team in scoring and they did not go to college. <br /><br />I did not like the Happy Youngster too much either. Look, I know it is his hobby and all of that but I don't understand why he has to get players involved who are just on Coghlan's team and don't have anything to do with the situation. I just saw pictures of him and read his story and thought he seemed pretty smug and annoying to me. I know people like what he does but just because he caught the homerun ball does not mean he can make demands for other player's stuff. <br /><br />Don't tell Casey that Matt Ryan is going to have a bad year. He will be very upset. Personally, I don't want anyone to get injured but if the Falcons don't play well, I hope the Panthers do. <br /><br />I love Sundrop, remember the commercial. It's an addiction I have. Not to the point where I am insane or anything, but I like it nonetheless. <br /><br />Fred, I would like to see a Detroit-Boston debate go on. Not that I want to encourage anger between two valued commenters, so nix what I said. Still, I believe Ortiz will turn it around but AJ did have a strong opinion on that. It is bizarre his power has been sapped though.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-3789603411565651962009-05-20T19:26:39.505-04:002009-05-20T19:26:39.505-04:00I was about to make a comment defending Ortiz decl...I was about to make a comment defending Ortiz decline, and steroid allegations. I'm looking at you, AJ (shaking my fist) but the games on. Maybe later after a few beers when I start feeling argumentative and doing research.Fred Triggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16980604002168881166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-12728709010739118972009-05-20T19:17:12.628-04:002009-05-20T19:17:12.628-04:001.) Howard over Lebron because "Centers are hard t...1.) Howard over Lebron because "Centers are hard to find"? Funny, I thought "once in an era, perhaps once in a lifetime league-dominating talents" were pretty hard to find too.<br /><br />2.) re: The "9 out of 12 leading scorers are high school players therefore it shows that players aren't helped by going to college" is false logic imo.<br /><br />It stands to reason that a high pct of leading scorers would be straight-out-of-high-school players. Players drafted out of high school are only drafted so soon because they have incredibly high ceilings. Most of the players capable of leading the league in scoring weren't given the chance to go to college because they were drafted right away (not that they didn't have a choice, but if you were a lottery pick out of high school you'd be stupid to go to college under the old rules). You're ignoring the high risk kids who failed and taking the high risk kids who succeeded and using them as if they were the total data pool, to reach a conclusion about the value of high school players and the usefulness of seasoning at the college level.<br /><br />The real question is "do an unduly high percentage of high school players flop in the NBA as compared to college players" and I don't see where the "scoring leaders" data addresses that question.<br /><br />3.) Happy Youngster home-run boy is a fucking pud. Everyone needs a hobby. Sure. Some people paint little action figures. They're puds. Some people take part in Renaissance Faires. They're puds too. Some people knock over kids for baseballs and use gloves dangling from fishing line to get bullpen baseballs. They are also puds.<br /><br />4.) I think I think that Matt Ryan is going to suffer a major setback in 2009, not the least because I think Turner's going to miss some serious PT to injury.<br /><br />5.) I liked that "Race you for a sundrop" commercial.Chris Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12152452626681072765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-78751695586717136282009-05-20T14:12:50.736-04:002009-05-20T14:12:50.736-04:00I don't even think it is a contest to be honest. H...I don't even think it is a contest to be honest. Howard is a great center but James has proven this year he is in a completely different league from the other players in the NBA. Or at least nearly all of the NBA players currently playing. I don't think a DPoY award should automatically mean the player is the greatest player ever and Ben Wallace is a great example. <br /><br />I do think Ortiz will turn it around, simply because I can't believe his power has disappeared like this. I very well could be wrong, it has been known to happen to me, but I can just see him heating up and having a great postseason. That's my nightmare (no offense Red Sox fans) at least. <br /><br />I never got why John Kruk broke down people's swings on BBTN, though he wasn't a bad player, I would put Ortiz above him. If Ortiz can't figure it out, I doubt Kruk will be able to. That 10 minutes of covering the Red Sox is why I haven't watched BBTN in a long time. It's too much fluff like that, with interviews with A.J. Burnett or something similar to that. There are more than a few teams in MLB, I wish they would show it sometimes. To their credit the Padres and Brewers are playing Sunday Night Baseball this week. <br /><br />Ivn, I can't really make up my mind on what I think because I feel like Vick has done his time, but I really, really like animals and think it is sickening what he did to those animals. Everyone has such moral outrage at him coming back, but I am not in that camp, I just want to see remorse and maybe have him do work with humane shelters. Gregg Doyel had an interesting column up about this I thought about posting on, where he thinks Vick coming back would show everyone that he was stupid because he lost everything. He thinks it would mean more for him to come back and show how he lost all that money and time from the game, rather than just fade away. <br /><br />I don't ever think about banning him from the game, but then again, I know the NFL will do something regarding suspending him. Those readers of Peter's were a little bit over the top for my tastes. They need to bring it down a notch or two because you are right, the NFL is not a paradise and people make mistakes. I just want to see remorse and have him fail miserably in a football sense. <br /><br />If those bankruptcy proceedings are accurate he has lost a lot. I don't think others will want to live up to his example anytime soon.Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-59642283446438425432009-05-20T13:59:42.803-04:002009-05-20T13:59:42.803-04:00I saw that he is having a chat. I don't want to tu...I saw that he is having a chat. I don't want to turn this into "Fire Bill Simmons" or anything of the like, but I may have to take a look at this one. <br /><br />The introduction to the chat calls the Clippers his "beloved" team and I am not sure if they are being sarcastic or not. I don't know if I want to post anything about Simmons because I think at this point we are going to give Jeremy Conlin a heart attack. <br /><br />I was a little impressed with the title defense by the Celtics but I never bought the "tired" argument since other teams have had to do similar things to try and defend the title. <br /><br />You won't ever make the chat, I made it one time when I did a completely SimmonsClone question about a Patriots game and that is the only reason I made it. Regardless of what a great point you make, he won't answer. His Boston Bruin excuse has more holes in it than I can ever imagine. Just say you like them because they became relevant again. <br /><br />He loves himself some Rubio and also said "March Madness" or the NCAA Tournament as I fondly call it sucked this year. Yeah, only one of the best teams of all time laid waste to the entire tournament, how boring is that?Bengoodfellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09401971573776672570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-30463390346978549402009-05-20T13:56:46.267-04:002009-05-20T13:56:46.267-04:00reading the Peter King reader mail regarding Micha...reading the Peter King reader mail regarding Michael Vick (and some of it is feisty)...damn. this is one of the few things I agree with Peter on and this is as an unabashed dog lover. reading things like:<br />"He's a dog torturer. He has no room in our society let alone our favorite sport. He should be banned for life.''<br /><br />"...what Vick did was a disgusting, horrible and despicable thing. A thing that cannot be forgiven. If the NFL lets Vick back in to play, then the NFL is not sending the right message to the players and fans. It's not just us adults who watch this game. Children of all ages watch and dream of playing in this game. When they see Vick back on the field after killing dogs for fun in the manner in which he did, then they'll think its OK to do so as long as you do a SMALL amount of jail time to pay that price..."<br /><br />(yes, that's right, now all the kids in this country will want to go to jail for organizing million dollar dogfighting rings...? do kids look at any amount of time in jail as a "small amount"? this blows my fucking mind)<br /><br />etc. etc...<br /><br />"...however, in my opinion he should not be afforded status in the NFL. Much like the privilege of voting, some privileges should not be reinstated after incarceration..."<br /><br />(if anyone goes to jail--for any offense--they shouldn't be allowed to vote or return to their job? well at least he's consistent and not singling out dogfighting but god damn)<br /><br />there's something about animals in the equation that makes people turn completely irrational. people honestly feel as though Vick is the black Jeffrey Dahmer. <br /><br />I think what Vick did was pretty abominable. but I think it sets a bad precedent to give the man a lifetime ban after serving the punishment the United States gave him, because there are so many athletes who fuck up. sports isn't some idyllic vacuum where real-life human flaws are nonexistent--ESPN and the internet kind of fucked that up--and I don't see the point in trying to turn it into one. it's a business industry, not a fantasy playground. in every industry in the world there are scummy people who do scummy things and end up getting their jobs back. for Christ's sake, Ted Kennedy killed somebody and is still a goddamn U.S. Senator. if some NFL team actually thinks Michael Vick can still be a productive football player--and if he still wants to play--fucking let him. anything else would be, dare I say it, un-American. <br /><br />(and my unfocused rant ends. clearly nothing outrages me more than misguided moral outrage.)ivnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-6250396841886196202009-05-20T13:50:29.317-04:002009-05-20T13:50:29.317-04:00Anyone who would take Howard over James is smoking...Anyone who would take Howard over James is smoking crack. Howard will go down as a good player, not a great one. It's amazing that you win a dunk contest and everyone thinks you are the best player ever. Or win one defensive player of the year award (which should have gone to Artest). Ben Wallace won a bunch of those, would you take Wallace over James?<br /><br />I for one do not think Ortiz will turn it around. I believe he is done as a player, there is just no way someone his age will turn it around. We are not talking about a hitter that hits for average...when power hiters lose it, they lose it completly. He will never learn to hit it opposite field and teams continue to pull that shift on him, he won't get hits. That and the fact they actually have some sort of drug testing going on means he'll never be good again. <br /><br />Speaking of Boston and ESPN...I watched Baseball Tonight last night and they had like a 10 min segment on Boston...one segment on Kruk breaking down what is wrong with Ortiz (which I found funny on a few levels, most of which him saying Ortiz should hit opposite field (duh) and the fact he gives advice). <br /><br />Then a really weird thing on BT, anyone else catch the show last night and see Gammon "playing" a guitar? Seriously...he had an electric guitar and was tyring to play it. That was horrible.AJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16973629881511639449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-102327997051254703.post-38814127936127714232009-05-20T13:25:00.524-04:002009-05-20T13:25:00.524-04:00I just posted this in Bills chat...
"So you gave ...I just posted this in Bills chat...<br /><br />"So you gave up on the Bruins since their owner is so cheap, yet you continue to buy season tickets to the Clippers who have the cheapest owner in all of sports...can you explain how that makes sense?"<br /><br />Think I make it in? Doubtful!<br /><br />And he is already talking about this Rubio guy being a sure thing...no chance in hell he has seen him play. <br /><br />Oh and he thinks the Clippers should trade the pick, along with their next two first round picks for Durant! Yes, 3 first round picks for Durant! And he refers to the Clippers as "we". I would take Blake and 2 other first round picks in a second for Durant. <br /><br />I love the excuses for Boston not being able to make it past the second round cause they have played so much the past 2 years...I remember the Pistons making 6 straight conferance finals and never heard anyone complain about the fact they played so much...AJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16973629881511639449noreply@blogger.com