Wednesday, December 12, 2012
0 comments Terence Moore Does Scott Boras' Job for Him
I'm not trying to do a hack job on Bourn, but Boras is going to want $100 million for him and speedy centerfielders without power have a habit of not getting better as they get further away from the age of 30.
I love center fielders, so I love Michael Bourn.
How about crappy center fielders? Do you like crappy center fielders simply because they are center fielders? Actually, don't answer that.
Those old black-and-white films of Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays doing their things are intoxicating.
I've got bad news. Michael Bourn isn't Mickey Mantle or Willie Mays.
Remember Paul Blair? He was hitting challenged, but his glove, legs and arm were among the primary reasons the Baltimore Orioles had those four 20-game winners in 1971.
A less mature person would take this opportunity to mention that wins are an overrated statistic, because as Terence Moore states here, how many wins a pitcher has partially depends on him having great center fielders like Paul Blair. I'm more mature than that though and won't mention my feelings on wins.
There also were those magic center fielders before Blair, ranging from Ty Cobb to Tris Speaker to Joe DiMaggio. Then there were those after Blair, ranging from Kirby Puckett to Ken Griffey Jr. to Torii Hunter. And there are those now that include rookie sensation Mike Trout, Adam Jones, Josh Hamilton and Bourn.
Three of those names don't belong in this discussion quite yet. I'll allow you to guess which three names those are.
So this is just me: If you have a center fielder of note these days, you should keep him no matter what.
If a team has a budget they need to stick to, then this strategy is probably the best way to spend valuable payroll space on a player who is overpaid. There are very few players who should be kept "no matter what" and the fact Michael Bourn is a center fielder doesn't automatically put him in this discussion. Even Albert Pujols was allowed by the Cardinals to depart in free agency last year. Blind loyalty to a player and an open checkbook to pay that player is an easy and fast way to put a non-winning team on the field. I think this is especially true when a player has hit free agency and a team is bidding against other MLB teams for that player's services.
So no, Michael Bourn should not be kept no matter what. His salary demands and how he projects during the length of his contract are very important matters to be considered.
Gold Glove-caliber defense? That's a given for the kind of center fielder I'm talking about. And if the guy can hit a little, while providing you with some zip on the basepaths and spark in the clubhouse -- well, you really need to make sure he doesn't leave anytime soon.
I have three separate issues with this statement:
1. Yes, Michael Bourn provides great defense and is fast on the base paths. Bourn also can hit a little. He hit just a little in the second half of the season...meaning he didn't hit very well in the second half of his contract year. Bourn hit .225/.325/.311 in the second half of the 2012 season. Bourn's splits are very even over his entire career between the first and second half of the season, so maybe the second half of the 2012 season was an outlier.
Terence also doesn't project Bourn's performance into the later years of his four or five year contract. This link from NBC Sports sums it up very well.
Bourn strikes out a lot for a leadoff hitter and whichever team that signs him will have to get their value out of him in the early part of his contract, because his proficiency for striking out and lack of power don't seem like they will project well into the future. Bourn will always be a fast guy (probably) on the base paths and play very good defense, but his value as a player depends on what kind of contract he signs this offseason. Speaking of which...
2. Terence Moore blindly saying a team should re-sign a center fielder without even discussing that player's salary demands is very poor writing, as well as a very elementary way to write a column. Salary demands have to be in the forefront of a writer's mind when deciding to write a team "must" keep a pending free agent who plays center field or any position on the baseball field.
3. Terence is advocating pretty hard for Michael Bourn in this column. Is Terence Moore working for MLB.com AND getting commissions from Scott Boras? If so, that seems to be some sort of a conflict of interest. Granted, it hasn't ever hurt Jon Heyman, but that's beside the point.
I'm talking about Bourn. That's why I cringe whenever I hear a few measly millions (OK, a bunch of millions) could prohibit the Atlanta Braves from re-signing the free agent for a second full season.
The Braves, or any other team, wouldn't be re-signing him for a second full season, but for four or five more full seasons. Therein lies the issue. Terence Moore wanted the Braves to sign a washed up Ken Griffey Jr a few seasons ago, so he clearly has no concept of salary versus the value of a player. The Braves have a fixed payroll, which Terence should know well from writing for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution for quite a few years. They have about $25 million to spend this offseason, depending on who you believe, so why would they spend $16-$20 million of this money on a center fielder when they need a left fielder/third baseman as well? More importantly, with the Uggla contract albatross on the books for three more years, why would the Braves saddle themselves with another player making $10 million or more who doesn't project to age well?
So why cringe when you learn a bunch of millions separate Bourn from the Braves? Smart teams don't blow their budget for nostalgia purposes. It makes sense to be smart on whether to offer Bourn the contract he and Scott Boras want.
As for Gold Gloves, Bourn has two of them, and he was close to snatching his third in four years this season.
I'm not going to argue his value on defense. I have seen him play quite enough to believe he is a valuable defensive center fielder and is fast on the base paths. Bourn did lead the majors for the second year in a row in being caught stealing. His steal percentage for 2012 was 76%.
He can hit, too. Despite his career batting average of .272, he was around .300 for more than a year as the definitive leadoff hitter, before he slumped in the second half of last season.
Bourn WAS around .300, before he went down to a .274 average for the season. I like how Terence acts as if Bourn's career average of .272 is some sort of outlier or doesn't reflect Bourn's true hitting ability because he hit .300 for a three month span this season. Bourn's batting average per year for his career are as follows:
2007: .277
2008: .229
2009: .285
2010: .265
2011: .294
2012: .274
These were his batting averages from age 24-29. I don't know if I can see him starting to become a .300 hitter on a consistent basis after the age of 30. So there is no "despite" his career batting average, because .274 is his career average and is a number he has always hovered around.
If that isn't enough, Bourn is a clubhouse favorite, and going back to the start of Bobby Cox's second reign with the Braves in 1991, chemistry has been as important to this franchise as pitching.
You don't pay $15 million per year for chemistry. You pay $15 million per year for Chipper Jones or a great player who isn't an asshole in the locker room. Teams pay for chemistry plus performance.
He also keeps mentioning he prefers to stay with the Braves, and Braves officials keep saying the feeling was mutual.
Terence Moore is a real gem. He tells us that Michael Bourn "prefers" to stay with the Braves. Of course he doesn't "prefer" this enough to sign a long term contract and forgo free agency does he? Bourn isn't dumb enough to rule out any teams he could play for as he becomes a free agent. So actions speak louder than words. If Bourn really preferred to stay in Atlanta, he would get a deal done. Instead, Bourn has Scott Boras as his agent and hasn't made this fictional "preference" known through his actions.
Sounds like a perfect match.
It's perfect unless you consider Bourn's financial demands and the Braves budget, as well as whether Bourn's demands match up with his skill set now and in the future. If you blindly don't consider any variables other than where Bourn claims to prefer to play, it is a perfect fit.
Bourn told me over the phone on Tuesday. "That [loss to the Cardinals in the NL Wild Card game] was tough, because I thought we had a good team. No, a great team, with all of the aspects of the game that you need. But there are a few teams out there that are likeable, and I can't put my finger on just one. So I can't narrow it down right now to just one."
You can obviously see Bourn "prefers" the Braves if the statement "there are a few teams there that are likeable, and I can't put my finger on just one" means anything. Clearly, he doesn't necessarily want to be back in Atlanta. It's a perfect match as long as you ignore all of the variables that could potentially make it not a perfect match, like salary demands, budget constraints and Bourn's future production based on his salary.
Either way, the fact Bourn can't narrow down which team he wants to play for next year means he definitely "prefers" Atlanta.
The Braves offered Bourn a qualifying offer of $13.3 million last week, but Bourn rejected it.
He rejected the offer of $13.3 million. Again, that should tell Terence Moore something, but it doesn't.
After all, given his still-potent skills at age 29, he is expected to do much better than that in the pocketbook.
Exactly, and Bourn very well may not be worth more than $13.3 million in a season.
It also doesn't hurt his financial prospects that his agent is Scott Boras, noted for squeezing more than a few pennies out of owners.
This is the first and only mention of Scott Boras in this column. That's not a sign of a well-written column given the subject matter discussed by Terence Moore. Scott Boras needs to be a major part of any discussion when it comes to signing Michael Bourn as a free agent.
Whatever Bourn gets, he deserves.
Not necessarily. It's good to see Terence Moore is looking at this situation from a purely neutral point of view though. He thinks a MLB team should give Michael Bourn whatever he asks for because Bourn is a fast center fielder. Whatever other criteria could be required for a $100 million contract?
I mean, given what he provides for a team, you can't overpay for his services,
No, you actually can overpay for a 30 year old center fielder who strikes out a lot, has little power, and doesn't project well into the future. Bourn's main strengths, his speed and defense are really good, but he isn't getting younger and I doubt his hitting will trend upwards as he gets older. It's entirely possible to overpay for him. Just stay tuned to find out if I am right.
and that applies to just about any other superlative center fielder -- past, present or future.
No, it doesn't. Why can't you overpay for the services of a great center fielder, but you can overpay for the services of a great third baseman or right fielder? Why am I arguing logic when Terence Moore clearly isn't using logic?
Bourn laughed.
He agreed, of course.
You mean a pending free agent doesn't disagree you can't overpay for his services? This is breaking news. The next thing Terence will tell us is that Michael Bourn's agent thinks he is worth as much money as a baseball team is willing to pay him.
"I think it's 1A and 1B between those two positions. The shortstop is going to get more action than the center fielder, but I'll tell you what -- you save a whole lot of runs in center field. And because of all the running you do, you have to be in great shape.
Which is why it is important to not overpay for a center fielder. Otherwise a team would have an expensive, underachieving center fielder in one of the most important positions on defense. Checkmate! Your turn now, Bourn!
"You look at what Mike Trout did this year for [the Los Angeles Angels] as a center fielder and as a leadoff hitter. It was tremendous. He has more power than I do, but we do some of the same things."
If by "do the same things," Michael Bourn means, "We both are center fielders, are fast, and play the game of baseball," then yes, he is correct. If Michael Bourn means anything else by this statement then he is incredibly wrong. Mike Trout is a completely different offensive player from Michael Bourn. Granted, they both steal bases and hold a bat in their hands when trying to hit the baseball, but the comparison ends there. Trout stole more bases, hit more home runs, drove in more runs, got on-base more often, hit for a higher average, and nearly doubled Bourn's OPS+. I know OPS+ isn't the end-all of statistics, but Bourn's was 90 and Trout's was 171. They aren't close to being the same player right now.
No question there.
No, no, no, big question there. When has a baseball player's self-evaluation ever been off? Never. Baseball players are always able to have a reasonable evaluation of their own skill set.
It's just that Bourn has been doing them longer than Trout --
So Mike Trouth is a decade younger and still plays at the level of a six year veteran...and this makes Michael Bourn's value increase how? Michael Bourn is maybe, maybe, like Mike Trout in two phases of the game. Bourn steals bases (though not as frequently or as successfully) as Trout and they both play great defense. Bourn is older, strikes out nearly as often and has less power. Those are the three major concerns a team should have when signing Bourn to a $90-$100 million contract. Of course, Terence Moore thinks Bourn is worth $200 million over five years.
and Bourn hopes to keep doing those things as long as he can without jumping from team to team.
Well, signing a long term deal no other MLB team will want to take on through a trade is certainly a way to make sure Bourn doesn't jump from team-to-team. Again, Bourn could possibly stay in Atlanta if he wanted $10 million per year. Of course the fact Bourn's actions don't match up with his words are irrelevant to Terence Moore apparently.
Bourn said. "As a player, you would like to get comfortable in one spot, but I'm not sure where that spot is for me right now."
I am guessing that spot will end up being whichever team ends up offering Bourn the most money. Such a coincidence that is.
Wherever it is for Bourn, the pitchers on his team will be happy -- along with the rest of his teammates, the team's fans and everybody else.
Scott Boras gives this article a stamp of approval. You can never overpay for a player like Michael Bourn. Let's fast forward to 2015 and see if that axiom is still true.
Tuesday, May 17, 2011
1 comments Measuring NBA Playoff Value: Starters vs. The Bench
When C.J. Watson replaces Derrick Rose, Chicago fans collectively hold their breath. While their star briefly recharges the batteries, they can only hope that he does not shed his offensive leash. In a structured offense, an overconfident backup can singlehandedly ruin the dynamic. Think Jamal Crawford when he’s ice cold. This, in a nutshell, is C.J. Watson. But the emotional rollercoaster that is Watson’s game does not provide a concrete answer to the following question: How much do the Bulls actually miss Rose when Watson is on the floor? More generally, how great a difference is there between a starter and a backup in the playoffs? Let’s find out.
Note: All stats via ESPN.com’s John Hollinger and NBA.com.)
After sifting through the PER and plus/minus of the players on the remaining playoff teams, some interesting results surfaced. As most would expect, Rose is the most valuable point guard remaining, with a PER that is 16.96 higher than Watson’s and a plus/minus that is 11.75 higher. AlthoughRussell Westbrook has risen to new heights, culminating in his Game 7 triple-double, Rose still reigns supreme. Part of the blame, however, lies with Eric Maynor’s improved play. In the playoffs, Rose has sported a 26.10 PER and a plus/minus of +9.75 per game, while Westbrook has posted a respectable 21.12 PER and +1.37 plus/minus. When Maynor enters the game, the falloff is only slight: his 16.08 playoff PER and +2.4 plus/minus provide solid backup support at the point guard position.
At shooting guard, the roles are generally reversed. Keith Bogans, Thabo Sefolosha andDeShawn Stevenson are severely outplayed by their bench counterparts. Jason Terry’s outstanding play takes the cake with a PER of 23.76, 18.9 higher than Stevenson and good for eighth in the NBA during the playoffs. His 7.83 PER improvement from regular to postseason also ranks him No. 1 of all players remaining.
Small forward is a two-headed race. LeBron James or Kevin Durant? Durant has already answered questions about his ability to close, exploding for 39 points in Game 7 against Memphis. LeBron was no slouch in the conference semis either, reeling off 10 straight points in Game 5 and deciding that enough was enough. But who’s more valuable on the floor relative to their teams? The easy answer, of course, is Durant. With Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh at LeBron’s side, one and a half stars are still on the court when he rests. But Durant’s value is in fact only slightly greater. The -17.11 dip in PER from Durant toDaequan Cook is closely rivaled by the LeBron to James Jones substitution (-14.48).
Power forward value is owned and dominated by Dirk Nowitzki. As well as Peja Stojakovic has played of late, he’s no match for Dirk’s 26.14 PER and +7.3 plus/minus. At center, Joakim Noah is the runaway winner. Although his 18.93 PER and 6.58 plus/minus have remained relatively stable from the regular season to the playoffs, Omer Asik’ has suffered through a -4.5 PER nosedive.
Random stats of note: Excluding Carlos Boozer, the entire Bulls starting lineup has seen a spike in PER and plus/minus. The bench, on the other hand, has fallen off course. Chicago’s supposed depth has disappeared, applying extra pressure on starters to play exceedingly higher minutes. This can be attributed to a natural, yet difficult to break cycle that often manifests in the NBA Playoffs. With more at stake, greater playing time for starters reduces the action for the bench. When called upon, the bench has less time to produce before the plug is pulled. And if they squander a lead, the leash only shortens. With a shorter leash comes less confidence and the pressure further builds. Yet the coach cannot be completely blamed. The goal, after all, is to win. He cannot worry about the morale of his bench when all the chips are on the table. Those who produce will play and those who don’t will not.
For all the LeBron haters out there, I’ve got the ammunition you’ve been looking for. The best players of each team (Chicago’s Rose, Miami’s LeBron and D-Wade, Dallas’ Dirk and OKC’s Durant) have surpassed their regular season PER in the playoffs with one exception: King James. Just as the saying goes, each of these players has literally risen to the occasion. Although all were already top 10 in regular season PER, they have lifted their individual play and thus their teams as well. Yet Wade, the most improved in PER (and No. 2 overall in the postseason), has more than made up for LeBron’s slight decline. That said, LeBron still ranks No. 3 in postseason PER.
In the end, statistics are an indicator, not an answer. But they have shed light on why certain teams still remain in contention while others do not.