Thursday, March 4, 2010

13 comments Clayton and King NFL Mailbags Make Me Question Human Intelligence

Just a reminder, I have started a NCAA Tournament Bracket Pick 'Em in a Yahoo league if anyone is interested in joining. The ID is "8624" and the password is "eckstein." Feel free to join and of course we won't be able to make the picks until the brackets are announced.

The two mailbags I am covering today, one of Peter King and one of John Clayton, both will make me somewhat question whether human beings actually have working brains or not...mostly it is the John Clayton mailbag that is the culprit. We get our first 2 page mailbag from Peter King this year, which always excites me because I love the bad journalism that is inherent in either the writer or the reader in a mailbag...and the more pages, the better.

In the first 24 hours of our Five For Fighting fundraiser for Army First Sgt. Mike McGuire's 135-member company being deployed to Afghanistan later this year, and for other U.S. troops in the war zones, you've donated $59,744 to the USO for the cause. I asked for $5 per person, but so many of you have done so much more. We've had 2,394 donors (as of 9:30 a.m. today), which translates to $24.96 per donation.

Let's start this day off with a "Full House" moment. I say a lot of not-nice and critical things about Peter King. When it comes to banding his readers and others together to help people or a cause, Peter is usually one of the first people to do this. I was critical of him holding an entire fundraiser for Dr. Z not because I didn't think Dr. Z deserved it, but because I thought there were other people who had strokes in the same situation as Dr. Z who could be helped as well. Just like when I make slightly bitter comments about breast cancer research money, it is not because I don't support breast cancer research, but because there are more cases of prostate cancer than breast cancer every year and breast cancer research gets quite a bit more funding than prostate cancer research.

Peter is doing a good deed by getting this money together for Mike McGuire and his company. While other sportswriters use their forum to campaign for General Manager jobs and encourage their readers to flood the Inbox of a team executive to ensure this happens, Peter King uses his forum to raise money for worthy people and causes. So hats off to him.

Enough rambling. What I am saying is Peter King is a good guy for getting his readers to contribute money to the USO fund and Mike McGuire's company. So good job Peter King, you are a good man, but I am still going to mock some things you write. Like right now...

When I asked NFL scouts and execs about the quarterbacks in this draft, the one word I heard a couple of times about Oklahoma's Sam Bradford was "frail.''

This could be because Bradford has had some injuries in college and he does look a little frail. I wouldn't say Bradford is frail, but any time a quarterback has an injury to his throwing shoulder it causes concerns among NFL scouts.

When we met, I thought I'd be meeting a Matt Ryan clone -- a tall kid who needed to fill out. Bradford doesn't look like he needs to fill out right now.

It sounds like Peter King has a little crush. It's like "The Bachelor" every single year for Peter. There are a ton of white NFL quarterback prospects to peruse through and we just don't know which one will get the rose at the end of the ceremony. By the way, "the rose" is also known in this case as "having Peter King call you after a game repeatedly, talk about you fondly in his MMQB, want to interview you at least twice a year, and perhaps show up outside your window late at night when he is in town."

It's interesting -- Bradford as a college player physically compares to Ryan.

Matt Ryan: 6'4" 213 pounds
Sam Bradford: 6'4" 235 pounds

So yes, I guess they are the same size but Bradford is 22 pounds heavier than Ryan, so it's not like they are clones or anything.

If Bradford checks out physically, which is a very big but (Ryan had no such major shoulder surgery entering his NFL career), I've got to think, like Ryan, that Bradford will be a top-five pick in the draft. St. Louis, picking first, and Washington (fourth) are the best bets to get him.

Here's the weird part about everyone saying Mike Shanahan will take Sam Bradford with the 4th pick...Mike Shanahan has a huge ego and is known for working well with quarterbacks. Don't you know he wants to mold Jason Campbell into a workable NFL quarterback just to show he can do it? I have no doubt he will draft a quarterback at some point, but it wouldn't shock me if it wasn't in the 1st round. I know there isn't a huge sample size to compare it to, but Shanahan had success with Griese and Jake Plummer, both of which were not 1st round draft picks. I just think with Shanahan being a QB guru-type head coach, he may think he can get a guy in the later rounds (2nd/3rd) and develop that guy while Jason Campbell runs out the string as the starting quarterback.

I was curious to measure Ryan, picked third by the Falcons in 2008, against Bradford. Ryan's career completion percentage: .599. Bradford's .676. Ryan's career yards per attempt: 6.92. Bradford's: 9.41. Ryan's career touchdown-to-interception ratio: plus-19. Bradford's: plus-72.

So based on their college career, Sam Bradford is a better pro prospect...by a lot. Of course we need to factor in the players and the system each quarterback played with in college. Since I can't currently think of any offensive players that played with Ryan at Boston College and I just rattled off 6 names in my head of offensive skill players, not including offensive linemen, who played with Bradford at Oklahoma...I will assume the talent around Ryan at Boston College held him back a little and the talent at Oklahoma helped Bradford.

But I'd be surprised if he gets past Washington at four. And I agree with Adam Schefter, who said the other day he expects the Rams to pick him number one overall if they consider Bradford a no-doubt franchise quarterback.

This is a pretty obvious statement. If any team considers Bradford to be a no-doubt franchise quarterback, that team will probably take him. The Lions and Bucs drafted quarterbacks last year so they wouldn't draft Bradford this year, but no teams without a quality quarterback would generally pass on a no-doubt franchise quarterback. Unfortunately, no-doubt franchise quarterbacks really don't exist that often, so there is always some doubt.

I asked Bradford if he thought he'd justify such a high pick.

What kind of stupid-ass question is this? Does Peter King think Sam Bradford is going to say "no" and basically throw millions of dollars out the window? This is why I think Peter's interviewing style is a joke to some people. He asks obvious questions or questions that have obvious answers. He has a pretty "lobbing softballs" style of interviewing.

"Coach Payton, how does it feel to win the Super Bowl?"

"Mike Vick, do you feel like you can come back to the NFL and compete?"

"Sam Bradford, do you think you are worth the risk for an NFL team to take?"

Re the Sean Payton/Jerry Jones/wine spat from yesterday's column:

Sean Payton has been murdered, his house condemned and his family forced into exile in the jungles of Brazil?

Ellenport wrote, "I asked Sean if he had spoken to Jerry since the Dallas dinner on Saturday night. He said yes -- he actually stopped by at the end of the dinner Saturday night to see them.

Jerry Jones announced when he saw Payton that night that until Payton apologizes every important unrestricted free agent or restricted free agent from the Saints would get a massive offer sheet from the Cowboys. The Saints will never be able to match any of these offer sheets...and also he just bought the Saints and Sean Payton is fired.

Here's Sean's reply from the chat:

'I was at the Dallas dinner Saturday -- stopped by at the end of their dinner, and we had some good laughs. Jerry and I chatted, and we had the empty wine bottle right next to us. Jerry was going to bring it back to Dallas with him as a keepsake, but it accidentally broke that night at the restaurant!' "

It "accidentally broke that night at the restaurant?" Did it "accidentally break" when Jerry Jones tried to smash Sean Payton's face in with it? Did it "accidentally break" when Jerry Jones got incredibly angry and threw the bottle into the wall? I think it is hilarious and slightly suspicious the bottle is now broken. How do you break an empty wine bottle that is just sitting on a table at a restaurant? I'm no detective, but these circumstances around this broken wine bottle are suspicious.

Ironic Hockey Note of the Day: Fifty hours after Sidney Crosby shot the puck through the legs of Ryan Miller in the most dramatic hockey moment since 1980, guess who matches up at the Igloo in Pittsburgh?

Martin Brodeur and Sidney Crosby?

Sidney Crosby. Ryan Miller.

I was WAY off. That is ironic. Who would have thought two teams in the NHL would have two players who were in a gold medal game a couple days before on OPPOSITE TEAMS in an NHL hockey game? Has this ever happened before? Like ever?

(Although I'm told Miller may not play and the Sabres may give him time to recover mentally and physically from the grind of the Olympics.)

Ok, so it's really not ironic since the two players aren't going to face each other? Thanks for nothing Peter.

Don't tease me with your ironic hockey thoughts and then let me know the ironic hockey thought may never actually happen. It's just cruel.

From Harvey Greene (media relations director, Miami Dolphins) of Davie, Fla.: "Enjoyed reading your note today about the Canada-USA hockey game. I was in charge of the press box setup for the entire hockey tournament at the Olympics (I just got back from Vancouver a few hours ago), and I can tell you I never saw a sporting event quite like that gold-medal game (or even the Canada-USA and Canada-Russia games that preceded it). The entire country, from Vancouver to Halifax, was on pins and needles the entire game and when Crosby scored, I'm sure the explosion of sound in Canada Hockey Place was duplicated in every city and hamlet across the country.

"There just isn't anything like that comparable in the States. We don't have a 'national' team in any sport that the entire country truly cares about.

Umm...the Yankees and the Red Sox?

ESPN just saw this comment and said, "Oh yeah, we will MAKE there be a national team the entire country cares about. We don't care if we have to ram coverage of this event where the new national team of our choosing plays down our viewers throats. Don't tempt us to manipulate the masses to prove a point."

Years from now, people will remember exactly where they were when he scored, which, with rare exceptions, usually only take place when a major tragedy strikes.

Those rare exceptions being mostly people can remember where they exactly where when any of their favorite teams won a title of some sort, which happens every year. So in America where there is no "national" team, there are a bunch of regional teams that can cause the same emotions in fans of that team. Canada's joy was on a larger scale, but on a smaller scale fans of American sports teams feel the same way Canada did pretty much every year.

From Ethan T. of Indianapolis: "I noticed you listed Jimmy Clausen as possibly slipping to the second round. Are teams that concerned about his character that he'd drop that far? I watched him throughout his college career -- he can make all the throws and you can't question his toughness after the beatings he took as a freshman and sophomore. He might be cocky, but what football player isn't to some extent?''

PK: He's likely going to be the second-rated quarterback in the draft, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the first round to anyone needing a passer, like Seattle with the 14th pick.

Yes, because after kicking his ass for 3 years while coaching USC and playing Notre Dame, Pete Carroll is going to immediately want Clausen on his team as the starting quarterback.

(I am kidding Notre Dame fans, I know the Trojans didn't kick the Irish's ass this year and Carroll may very well want Clausen. I just thought it was amusing USC beat Notre Dame 3 times when Carroll coached USC and Clausen played for Notre Dame...and then Carroll would draft Clausen.)

Cody Jones of Shreveport, La.: "I'm just tired of the overtime thing. There's no guarantee that both teams get to touch the ball in the previous four quarters, so why change it for overtime? Should we guarantee that both teams get a possession every quarter? No, that's sissy-fied. You don't want to go to overtime? Score more points. You don't want to lose in overtime? Score more points or stop the opposing team. The game is not decided by a coin flip, it's decided by the coaching and the men on the field. Always has been. I don't care about the percentages of win-loss in OT. Both teams already had their chance to touch the ball in four quarters! Politically, I'm Independent, but this sounds like liberal football. Make sure everybody gets a fair chance. Rubbish.''

(Cody Jones then cuts his arm with a knife and bleeds all over his keyboard to prove his toughness, goes outside and arm wrestles a crocodile to the ground with his bare hands, puts a dress on the crocodile and then beats the shit out of the crocodile for being weak, and finally hammers nails into the soles of his feet and starts to run a marathon.)

PK: If you created a system in football in 1974, when kickers made six of 10 field goals and kicked off in OT from the 35-yard line, why does the system have to be the same in 2010, when kickers make eight of 10 field goals and kick off from the 30? Laws are amended all the time in the real world to adjust to the times.

I am just disappointed Peter King didn't come back with his usual, "my goodness you are angry young man" type response.

I am actually shocked the NFL has made an NFL overtime change that seems to make sense and doesn't seem half-assed or incredibly stupid. I am not sure if this is an illusion or actual progress...of course the fact I like the proposed NFL overtime change ensures this overtime idea will never get approved by the NFL owners.

From Shawn of Tempe, Ariz.: "My wife tolerates being a football widow each season. And she tolerates me referring to NFL draft weekend as a national holiday. But taking over the TV on Thursday, canceling Friday night plans, and leaving work early two days in a row is unacceptable to even me. This makes league coverage inaccessible to a huge percentage of loyal fans. Now that the NFL is king how about maintaining a fan-friendly approach instead of creating seat license fees, exorbitant satellite TV pricing, and now inaccessible draft coverage. Can you start a MMQB: CFL column?''

There is a lot of angry readers in Peter's mailbag today, but none are mad at Peter himself. I like it when they are mad and angry at Peter more than when the readers are just generally angry.

The draft was money on Saturday, a national holiday for football fans, and now, even though the league is sure to get better TV ratings by having the draft spread over three days (two in prime time), there will be something lost with this format. I don't like it at all. I suggest you write to Roger Goodell at the NFL in New York, or Tweet him (@nflcommish) to register your objections, and urge him to change it for 2011.

Or there could be a protest, like a large group of people refuse to watch the draft, which could affect viewership of the draft and would cause ratings to go down, thereby making the NFL change the draft time back to when it was this past year. But that won't happen because people are going to watch the draft anyway and the NFL won't ever change the draft time back to where it was. See, as long as people make time to watch the NFL Draft, the NFL wins on this issue, but if people actually refuse to watch then the NFL will change it back...but no one is going to refuse to watch.

Now let's get to John Clayton's mailbag and his readers who are borderline crazy and very amateur sounding when it comes to asking pertinent NFL questions.

Sometimes, players take gambles that fail. Other times, players take gambles that work.

(The sound of Bengoodfella being bored to death with the thought of reading a John Clayton column.)

As it turns out, Peppers, who wasn't franchised and will leave the Panthers after free agency starts, is in a no-lose situation even if he doesn't get significantly more than what the Panthers were willing to pay him from 2009 through 2012.

Which seems to be a bit up in the air. The Panthers offered between $13-$14 million per year last summer and didn't even bother negotiating with Peppers this year that much, which should tell any potential suitors something about Peppers.

According to sources, six to eight teams are interested in signing Peppers when free agency starts. He needs to get $34 million over the next three years to equal the money the Panthers were willing to pay him, and that, according to sources, seems easy to obtain.

Again, Peppers is a great player but he turned down a reported 4 year $52 deal from the Panthers last summer and a deal the summer before to make him easily the highest paid defensive player in the NFL. I am not sure how Clayton got the $34 million number because I am pretty sure the offer wasn't constructed to give Peppers $18 million his last season and it was a longer deal than 4 years. Whatever, let's move on...

Peppers' departure from Carolina isn't about the money. Even if he signs for the same money as he would have with the Panthers, Peppers wants to take his game to another level.

One way Peppers can take his game to the next level is to TRY HARD EVERY SINGLE GAME! That's a really good way to do it. Look, I like Peppers and I have no sour grapes about this. He could get 24 sacks this upcoming year and it wouldn't shock me because he can do that. Easily. I am not exaggerating. I think Peppers could get 24 sacks if he really wanted to...but he has to want to, which I don't think he does.

I am not the only one who thinks Peppers takes plays off. I can see Peppers having one good year and then going back to his 10 game "try-hard" schedule with 6 games going through the motions and just generally acting like he doesn't give a shit. That's the upside for Peppers, the fact he will get paid by some team. The downside is he is going to go to a team where he doesn't have UNC Tar Heel fans in the crowd to love him unconditionally because he went to their school and he is going to get called out for some stuff he does (or doesn't do) on the field.

Let's get to Clayton's retarded readers:

Q: For years, something has really bothered me about the draft strategies of NFL teams. If a club has a big, glaring weakness on its roster, why doesn't it use multiple draft picks to address it? I think the Rams should draft two or three quarterbacks, the Bills should draft three or four offensive linemen, the Bears should draft two or three safeties, etc. Sure, you're sacrificing depth, but at least you're taking a bold step to solve a major problem. What gives?

Nathan in Coralville, Iowa

What gives is that this is potentially the dumbest idea I have ever heard. It's the same reason when you have a headache you don't take 30 Advils to take a bold step to fix the whole headache problem. This would be a roster overdose. It makes sense to do this if a team is looking to overhaul a position on the team, but it makes no sense in trying to fix a depth chart problem like not having a clear cut #1 quarterback or right tackle. A team has to allocate its draft picks well and this isn't the way to do this.

As I say, life is not a fantasy draft. Teams just can't pick and choose how to fill a position and worry about trading the players who don't fit in later.

Fortunately, John Clayton explains fairly well why this wouldn't work.

A: Some teams get into trouble by reaching for players to fill needs. To reach twice might be even more dangerous. It may not be a bad idea if the position is deep enough that when the "need" player is available, he ranks among the best players available to a team. Often, that isn't the case. You've seen in recent drafts that safety has been a position without much depth. Drafting two for need could make a team go 0-for-2. It's rare that a draft is deep enough for a team to take two quarterbacks and hope to be successful.

Q: Would it be logical or even possible for a Michael Bush-for-Michael Vick trade because the Raiders need a quarterback and the Eagles released Brian Westbrook?

I don't think this trade would be logical or even possible. The Eagles don't really seem like a team that would want Michael Bush. That's exactly what JaMarcus Russell needs, Mike Vick to mentor him and push him for the starting spot on the depth chart. I would love to see this happen. Maybe then the Raiders could see how Vick scrambles and try to convince JaMarcus Russell to lose 70 pounds and turn into a scrambling quarterback. I would love to watch Vick and Russell work together.

Also, is there any possibility of Peppers going to the Raiders?

A: It makes sense for the Eagles, but it doesn't make sense for the Raiders... Al Davis likes a vertical stretch offense, and he's banking on JaMarcus Russell working hard this offseason and trying to show he isn't a bust.

Please make this happen Mr. Davis. In fact, I want "Hard Knocks" to focus on the Raiders this year and maybe have Vick take Russell out on the town one night.

Peppers would add more pass rush, which is needed. You get the feeling things won't work out well on offense. If that's the case, why not bid for Peppers on defense?


I am not sure I can buy John Clayton's personnel management style of, "our offense sucks so let's just spend a lot of money on defensive players." He said something similar about Peppers in a question in this mailbag about the Bears. It appears John Clayton thinks if a team stinks on one side of the ball, it makes sense to load up on the other side of the ball and spend money there. Rather than spend a ton of money on Peppers, why not find free agents that can make the offense better for the Raiders? You know, so the offense doesn't stink. It's nice to get a defense that is dominate, but why not work on the weak offense and strengthen the defense with the money that could be spent on one defensive player? This is mostly true if you are the Raiders and have a lot of needs on the roster.

Sign a mid-level free agent or two for defense and give Russell some good offensive skill players to work with in free agency or through trade. $16 million or whatever Peppers wants can go a long way. Or does this make too much sense and that is why Clayton doesn't suggest it?

Q: Being a Giants fan, it's obvious that we have holes on defense. Given our great WR depth, do you think we could trade Mario Manningham to the Dolphins for the No. 12 pick?

We have a new submission for "Fan that overrates his team's players WAY too much." Mario Manningham for the #12 pick in one of the best NFL drafts in a few years? Is this guy high or just stupid? Manningham didn't have a terrible year, last year but he is in no way worth a Top 15 pick in the NFL Draft.

We could even add in Jonathan Goff.

Oh, I didn't know the Giants would add in a guy who has a total.............

27 career tackles. Consider this deal done then. A backup wide receiver and a backup linebacker for the #12 pick in the draft. This is they type of deal Bill Parcells would make all the time in the Bizarro NFL.

A: Come on, do you really think Manningham would be valued at the 12th pick in the draft? Clearly, that's overvaluing a receiver who is becoming a backup. At best, he might net a fourth-round choice.

I get the feeling the guy who wrote this question, Leo from New York, doesn't seem well equipped to properly evaluate NFL players or doesn't understand how much value a player may have. Either that, or he REALLY likes Mario Manningham and hopes other NFL teams share his view.

Q: I am a big fan of your work, but I disagree with your belief that the Bills need to draft a quarterback (specifically Jimmy Clausen) this year. You stated the Bills' front office destroyed its O-line, so why would it be wise to put a rookie passer behind one of the worst lines in the league?

Fantastic point. Let's see how John Clayton responds.

A: You're right about the offensive line problems being a factor, but why would the Bills have to start Clausen immediately?

They wouldn't have to, but then the Bills would have passed on selecting an offensive tackle in this fairly good NFL draft and will have to hope they can find an offensive tackle later in the draft, in free agency or in next year's draft. It's fine to sit Clausen with the offensive line still being a huge problem with the Bills, but why not fix the offensive line first? Or you could do both...

They could use Trent Edwards as a bridge to Clausen. I don't think you have to worry about it, because I don't think Clausen will drop that far. If that's the case, the Bills need to draft an offensive tackle.

It's a chicken-or-the-egg argument. Fix the offensive line first or get a good quarterback first. I fall under the "fix the offensive line first" argument. I guess this is why teams have multiple draft picks. They can choose an offensive tackle in the 1st/2nd round or a quarterback in the 1st/2nd round.

Q: What do you think the best-case scenario is for the Eagles this year at quarterback? Do you ride Donovan McNabb out for one more year? As an Eagles fan, I would try to trade him for the most possible value. Kevin Kolb doesn't seem like a good fit as a starter, even though he hasn't had a chance to really prove himself. Vick is a question mark. Is it possible for the Eagles to look at the draft? Maybe someone like Tim Tebow?

Joe in Lindenhurst, N.Y.

I can not wait for Tim Tebow to get drafted by some team, any team, just so fans of every NFL team will quit talking about him as a possibility for their team. It's like a broken record at this point and I want it to stop.

Let's see John Clayton sort of answer the question.

A: The best scenario is to keep McNabb and continue to groom Kolb.

Kevin Kolb has been in the NFL for three years now. Why the hell does he still need grooming? Shouldn't he be ready at this point? After three years of being a backup, his rookie contract is going to run out and the Eagles will have groomed him for another team. I am not saying Kolb is ready to start, but I think all the grooming he needs should be done by now. So either he sucks or he just needs to wait his turn...but no more grooming should be necessary.

Vick doesn't have much, if any, trade value, so I think he will get cut.

John Clayton doesn't realize that nowhere in that question was there a mention of Mike Vick getting traded. I am not sure exactly what question he thinks he is answering when he wrote this.

Q: My question relates to the likely cap-free year. All the focus I have seen so far has been on the cap portion. I'm more interested in the floor aspect. I can see many teams that will lower spending greatly in the event of a cap-free year. What are your thoughts in relation to this?

Les in Perth, Australia

A: The salary-cap floor last season was $111 million. I predict you may see more than a dozen teams not spend to that level.

The NFL: Where it feels like the lockout started a year early.

In fact, I predict payrolls in general will drop $20 million to $30 million per team...More than half the unrestricted free-agent deals will be one-year deals for less than $1 million. Owners will be pocketing a lot of money this season.

Then the owners will be asking the players to pay in money to help pay for stadium expenses when many of the stadiums were funded by tax-payer dollars. It sounds like the owners have some credibility problems in my opinion.

So here is my take on the lockout situation. The owners are going to save a shitload of money this year and use that money for their own personal use. They want the players to help pay for stadium expenses for a team they bought and own because they claim they can't afford to pay for some of these stadium expenses. Boo-hoo. The players obviously don't want to do this, so they may need Congress to force the owners to open up the books to see how much money the owners are making. The only thing we know for sure is the owners are going to make a shitload of money this year because they are preparing a confrontation with the player's union where their main claim is they don't make enough money to run their business.

I think I may be on the player's side on this lockout issue.

Wednesday, March 3, 2010

16 comments An Interview With the Worst MLB Scout Ever

I have started a NCAA Tournament Bracket Pick 'Em in a Yahoo league if anyone is interested in joining. The ID is "8624" and the password is "eckstein." Feel free to join and of course we won't be able to make the picks until the brackets are announced.

Gene Wojciechowski has an interview he did with "Scout X" who is apparently a great and successful scout in Major League Baseball. Maybe Scout X isn't the worst scout in the history of MLB, but he at least has to be the most obvious. 85% of what this guy says is completely obvious to anyone with a basic knowledge of baseball and the players who play the game. He's not really telling us anything new or revealing. Gene barely even writes this article, he just lets Scout X make obvious statements and give his opinion. I was originally going to ignore this article because it didn't sound interesting but then I ended up reading it and realizing nearly every insight this Scout X has is an incredibly obvious insight. So I had to post it.

(As I finished writing this, I happened to notice "Fire Rick Reilly" has posted something on the very same article on February 28. I hate doing the same thing other blogs do, but he did a good job so read his as well. I didn't erase mine because I worked hard at it and I am sick and don't feel like starting over. So I hope you enjoy them both.)

Enough introduction, let's let Scout X dig his own hole.

Call him Scout X.

Big league lifer. One of the best in the business. Has forgotten more about baseball than you and I will ever know.

Born in a dugout. Immediately after he was born, he had a radar gun in his hand. Convinced the Yankees to sign Mickey Mantle and raced Jackie Robinson around the bases one time. He lost, but got Jackie's respect. Has smoked for 67 years. Doctor is amazed his lungs look fine. Has never used a computer.

This "forgotten more about baseball part..." will come up fairly soon in this post. Like he forgets some things that happened last year in baseball.

Opening Day is April 4. Scout X is way ahead of you.

As you will see, Scout X is actually right...along with everyone else. Though some of his observations are debatable, others are just plain obvious.

Take it away Scout X...

Can anybody beat the Yankees? I don't see how. I really don't see how.

Other teams in the American League could have better pitching or better hitting than the Yankees do, the Yankees could have injuries, or perhaps any of 1,000 other reasons that could encompass a 162 game season. These are all reasons some teams may be able to beat the Yankees.

You're talking about CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett, Andy Pettitte and Vazquez. It's hard to compete with that.

I hate to say this, but Pettitte was not a bad pitcher last year, but he was barely above average. AJ Burnett wasn't a bad pitcher but he also wasn't completely stellar last year. Burnett and Pettitte were actually good pitchers, but it is not like this is a staff full of aces. The fact the Yankees can hit the ball very well had a little bit to do with the success of the team and the pitching staff.

Look the Yankees are going to be fine, but 2nd best team in the division, the Red Sox, can compete fairly well with their rotation. In fact, if you forced me to choose the best staff in the AL East, I don't know if I would go with the Yankees staff.

I also think the Yankees hitting has a lot to do with their success...but what do I know, I am not a baseball lifer.

For me, Phil Hughes would probably be the fifth starter. Joba Chamberlain would be the set-up guy. I don't think Joba has the intellectual capacity to go through a lineup three times.

Phil Hughes on the other hand is figuring out quadratic equations and determining the actual value of Pi sometimes on the mound...completely forgetting that he is actually pitching in a major league baseball game. His ERA last year was -2.34. Yes, he actually is so smart, he found a way to take away runs from the other team.

Joba Chamberlain = Midwest retard
Phil Hughes = California genius

A lesser scout would use these two player's actual record as starters to determine who should be the 5th starter, but a lesser scout doesn't know everything Scout X knows. A lesser scout would compare Chamberlain and Hughes numbers as starters...but a lesser scout wouldn't factor in that Joba Chamberlain is an idiot. Scout X knows this and gives his opinion accordingly.

People are talking about Tampa, but I just don't think, at the end of the game, they can compete with the Yankees and Red Sox. Not yet, anyway.

I am not 100% sure I know exactly what this means. This could be an indictment of the Rays bullpen. I am pretty sure they have Rafael Soriano closing for them this year. As a viewer over the past couple of seasons of Soriano, I will say I find him to be a decent closer. Not as good as Rivera or Papelbon, but how many closers are?

But starting-pitching-wise, this kid Jeff Niemann, they rave about him.

They rave about him huh, Scout X? What's your opinion of Jeff Niemann, Scout X? Completely ignoring that we already know he went 13-6 with a 3.94 ERA and 1.351 WHIP in his rookie year last year of course...

Scout X????

I'll give you a hint, he moves on and doesn't indicate the fact Niemann had a great rookie season may indicate Niemann could be a good pitcher. Great observation by Scout X, picking a guy who was fourth in the Rookie of the Year voting last year as a pitcher who could be a good pitcher.

I like how Scout X says "they rave about him" giving the indication he has never seen Niemann pitch...which isn't very scout-like in my mind. Scout X has a full season of Niemann pitching to determine whether or why "they" rave about him. Did he not ever see Niemann pitch?

But if you give me the choice between Lincecum and Cain, I'll take Cain for the next six, seven years.

I mean this is a tough call, let's see Scout X's reasoning because I would love to know it.

Cain can really pitch, man.

So can Lincecum. He can really pitch too, man.

Lincecum, he's a freak. He weighs 160 or so pounds. He's a max-effort guy with a bad delivery.

A bad delivery that has never affected Lincecum's durability in any fashion. Carry on...

Don't get me wrong -- he punched out 261 guys last year and he might pitch forever. But it's just that Cain pitches with such ease.

Cain pitches with ease, versus the fact Lincecum is actually a better pitcher right now...but Cain does have that whole ease thing going for him, which apparently means a lot.

He won 14 games last year with a 2.89 ERA. Lincecum won 15 with a 2.48. See what I'm saying?

No, not at all. I don't see what you are saying at all. Cain pitches with ease, even though Lincecum is a better pitcher, but Cain looks better throwing the ball so that's the guy you want for the long-term? Cain won less games with a slightly worse ERA, so that makes him a better pitcher? I need someone to fill me in on this one...ideally that would be Scout X, but he has moved on to his next earth-shattering statement.

And as much as I hate to say it, I'd pay to watch Manny Ramirez. I'd pay to watch him hit.

BUT DOES HE HIT WITH EASE? IF NOT, FUCK HIM.

Play left field? No. In a playoff game about three years ago, he's going toward the line -- there's a line drive -- he kind of stumbles and his hat falls off and it goes past the ball's path and the ball rolls into his hat. He's looking around for the ball. I thought I was going to die. That was at Fenway Park.

Whoa, whoa, whoa Scout X. Please don't throw too much information at me all at once.

So Manny Ramirez is bad at playing left field? You have to be kidding me, I thought he was like Willie Mays out there. Don't ruin my perception of the world by telling me Manny Ramirez isn't a Gold Glove fielder because that is just wrong.

Manny Ramirez does not field with ease. See what I am saying?

But the guy can hit.

So Manny Ramirez is a good hitter? I am glad Scout X is here to tell me this stuff or else I would be lost.

A-Rod is hard to watch. He's such a phony. Hard to stomach. But he's a great player. A great player.

I want everyone to know that Scout X gets paid by a team in Major League Baseball to make these observations. So far he has told us that Manny Ramirez can't field, is a good hitter and Alex Rodriguez is a good hitter, but a huge fake. Does Scout X think he is telling these little tidbits to people who have never watched a game of baseball before? How is this insight?

I think Scout X is a 15 year old boy who just got done reading "The Yankee Years" and spent 20 minutes before the interview with Gene perusing the league leaders in MLB last year.

As far as the younger players, that's easy: Evan Longoria of the Rays. I like the way he plays the game.

You mean you like how he plays the game, in that he plays the game really well? I like that too.

And Andrew Bailey, the closer for Oakland, has no fear. He's aggressive, works fast and throws strikes. I like his game very much.

Justin Upton of the D-backs is so talented. And everyone knows about Zack Greinke of the Royals.

Again, this is not insight. This was merely naming a short list of the best young players in the American and National League.

Everyone knows about Zack Greinke since he won the Cy Young last year, but everyone also knows about Bailey, Upton and Longoria. They aren't new to many baseball fans.

Now if you're asking me my favorite guy to watch, it's the Kung-Fu Panda -- Pablo Sandoval of the Giants. Oh, is he funny.

Oh he's so funny! Look at the fat man with the baseball bat! He is so comical! The fat man shouldn't be able to swing the bat because he is fat! Unlike that skinny stud Babe Ruth.

But he can rake. He can hit. He's so fat and he's so unorthodox.

Pedro Sandoval is a good hitter even though he is fat? Someone get this Scout X guy a massive raise immediately! What's his take on Hanley Ramirez? Is he a good hitter or not, because I really can't tell. How about Felix Hernandez? Does he pitch with ease? Would you pay to watch him pitch? Does his overwhelming Dominican-ism affect his pitching? More importantly, is anyone raving about him?

But he gets the barrel of the bat to the ball. You cannot teach somebody to hit like that.

Actually I am 85% sure you can teach somebody to hit the ball off the barrel of the bat like that.

Seattle had the best offseason, but I still think the Angels are the class of the AL West.

You mean the same Anaheim team that has won the AL West three straight years is still the best team in the AL West? Be careful with these provocative statements Scout X.

I wonder why Scout X believe this? Let's delve into his analysis of the AL West division race...if we dare.

The Mariners had a lot of money to spend, but I'm not absolutely convinced about their offense.

Well if you aren't convinced about their offense then there is no way they can win the division. If only Seattle had good pitching to offset this hypothetical offensive problem.

Even though I think the Angels are going to win that division, I don't see them getting past the wild card. They've got to play Boston every year.

Last year the Angels beat the Red Sox 3 games to 0 in the Divisional playoffs. Apparently Scout X doesn't remember this.

So the Angels are going to win the division because the Mariners offense is going to stink and the Angels are destined to lose to the Wild Card, even though they beat the Wild Card last year.

In the NL East, Philly wins, but I'm worried about Brad Lidge.

I like how he says he is worried about Brad Lidge like this is a revolutionary statement of some sort. Lidge was 0-8 last year with a 7.21 ERA and a 1.80 WHIP and 11 blown saves. Does it really count as analysis that Brad Lidge should worry some people? I don't think you can watch baseball and not be worried a little bit about Lidge.

The Mets are a poorly put-together team.

That's it. We get nothing else.

Scout X's idea of analysis: "The A's don't spend a lot of money on players." (Then smiles at himself for producing such insights)

And the Nationals need to be careful with Stephen Strasburg. He's got a fresh arm because he hasn't pitched a whole lot. But pitching is fragile, especially power pitchers like that.

So the Nationals shouldn't have Strasburg pitch 300 innings this year? Let's just be thankful Dusty Baker isn't the manager of the Nationals or else this could happen.

Best player in the National League is Albert Pujols. Best player in the American League is Joe Mauer. Not too hard there.

It's not hard unless you don't have access to the MVP results from the 2009 baseball season.

Roy Halladay is right up there. The Phillies will love him.

I am honestly laughing right now. The idea the baseball-following public needs a scout to tell us that Roy Halladay is up there as one of the best pitchers in baseball is laughable. Of course the Phillies are going to love him, he is going to a less top-heavy division that doesn't have the DH when he was a bad-ass in a tougher division with 9 actual hitters in the lineup.

And like I said, I really like Lincecum and Cain. Cain has four pitches he can command, and he's big -- 6-3, 230.

He pitches with ease too! We can not forget that.

When I look for breakout players, I look for good, young players who have some experience who are on good clubs, with good players around them.

You don't look for shitty, old players that have never played in the majors before to be breakout players? But...why not?

You mean like Pablo Sandoval? Wait, that doesn't fit Scout X's criteria.

You mean like Mark Reynolds? Wait, the D-backs weren't a great team last year so that doesn't fit the criteria either.

You mean like Aaron Hill? Wait, he wasn't on a good team nor did he have good players around him.

All sarcasm aside, isn't this too narrow of a criteria for a breakout player? Of course they are generally young and good players to be considered breakout players, that goes without saying really.

I think the Cubs have a chance in that division. They've got some underachieving guys who have had great years in the past.

I think he is talking about Alfonso Soriano and he must be ignoring the downward trending of Soriano's numbers. I could be wrong, but I don't his numbers are just going to magically start getting better.

Randy Wells pitched really well for the Cubs. I guess he found out this spring he needed glasses. I wouldn't give them to him. I wouldn't change a thing.

Apparently Scout X hasn't ever heard that as humans get older their eyesight can get progressively worse, which means Wells could have trouble seeing this year. Who cares though? If Wells pitched well last year without glasses, those glasses will only screw him up this year. It's science. Everyone knows baseball players only get worse as their vision gets better.

So that car you see swerving down the streets of Chicago and forcing pedestrians off the sidewalks into the street is Randy Wells taking Scout X's advice.

Detroit's starting rotation has some question marks, but I like Max Scherzer. People don't like his delivery, but I like his stuff.

From a 2008 scouting report on Scherzer:

-Scherzer works from a three-quarters arm slot, and he gets a slight drop and drive action with his legs during his delivery. He creates deception for the batter with his shoulder turn.

-Under "Strengths"...Deceptive motion; he hides the ball well.

-He has solid mechanics and is able to repeat his release point. He does have a slight drop and drive action, but he does a good job of using his lower half. Although his hands break late at times, he gets away with it because he has a quick arm swing. He hides the ball well from the hitter, and that makes him that much more effective.

John Sickels also seems to have few concerns about Scherzer's delivery, but he also doesn't think it should affect Scherzer in the majors. I just thought I would mention this since Scout X seemed to indicate he was in the minority among those who liked Scherzer's delivery.

Justin Verlander is a guy I should have mentioned before. One of the class pitchers of the league.

This is obvious to anyone who follows Major League Baseball. The fact Verlander is a class pitcher really goes without saying.

Rick Porcello is 21 years old.

That's it. That's all he says about Rick Porcello. I feel terrible for whichever team pays Scout X to come back with a report on a player and it has just one sentence that states the player's age and perhaps the color of his hair. If the team's lucky, the scouting report will include what position the player plays and whether Scout X laughed while watching him play the field.

And Miguel Cabrera is a monster.

Yes he is. I guess I have high standards for scouts. I expect more actual scouting than something anyone with the ability to do an Internet search and rudimentary knowledge of baseball would be able to do.

Jeremy Bonderman is coming off an injury.

Thanks for looking that up for us. Of course this knowledge doesn't really count as "scouting" but I have lowered my expectations at this point anyway. I feel like I am reading a children's book right now.

I think Orlando Hudson is going to bring a lot to the Twins. He's probably the best defensive second baseman in baseball.

He could be the best defensive second baseman in baseball if you want to discount what Fangraphs think when comparing other second basemen to Hudson. His UZR for 2003, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009. Those stats "probably" show that Scout X is "probably" wrong.

You can tell Scout X is one of those old school guys who doesn't pay attention to statistics and just prefers to base his scouting on observations that are extremely helpful. Observations like "Rick Porcello is 21 years old" that really tell us nothing and his comment that Orlando Hudson may be the best defensive second baseman in baseball, which doesn't have a lot of evidence to support it.

This is the type of scout who doesn't let statistics or any other type of evidential proof discourage him from making a statement that he believe is true based on his own observations. I am not a fan of these type people.

Phillies in the NL East, Dodgers in NL West, Cardinals in the NL Central. NL wild card is Colorado.

Or in other words, the exact same playoff participants we saw in 2009.

In the American League you've got the usual suspects:

As opposed to the National League, which was a wild and crazy dose of exactly the same as last year.

Yankees in the East, Twins in the Central, Angels in the West, Boston as the wild card.

So Scout X just picked the exact same teams to make the playoffs in 2010 as made it in 2009. I don't know if I even need to say anything about this.

In the NLCS, I'll take the Cardinals and the Dodgers. I can't take the Phillies because Lidge scares the hell out of me.

Lidge had an absolutely terrible year last year and he scared the hell out of everyone. This didn't stop the Phillies from winning the National League pennant and making the World Series for the 2nd straight year. So to say Lidge being shaky is the reason you can't pick the Phillies seems to have a shaky historical precedent from all the way back to last year.

Because of his inconsistency, they're vulnerable late in the game. In a playoff situation, the closer is in there every night.

Again, I am not disagreeing with this. I am just saying Scout X is ignoring the fact Lidge had a terrible year last year and it didn't hurt the Phillies from making the World Series in any fashion. Also, last year wasn't the first year Lidge has struggled. Remember 2006 and 2007 (to a lesser extent) Brad Lidge? He followed that up with a perfect year in 2008. So he has a history of up-and-down years in regards to performance.

He has bounced back very well before and could do it again this year. I think I am doing more analysis than Scout X does at this point.

I think Broxton, even though he blew a lot of saves last year, has a chance to be special.

Broxton blew 6 saves last year and never blew back-to-back saves. Also, everyone pretty much knows Broxton has a chance to be special. Hitters hit .165 against him last year, so this is kind of an obvious statement that he could be good. He already is special.

Yankees win the World Series.

I notice that Scout X likes to pick for 2010 the exact same things that happened in 2009.

When the season's over, show me my picks again. I want to see how I did.

When it comes to telling us what happened last year and predicting it again for this year, telling his audience the obvious, and not really giving any great scouting insights Scout X has no peer.

If scouting only involved making statements that everyone already knew was true, telling the public the current MVP winners are good baseball players, and reciting statistics any Google search could find...I think I could be a MLB scout.

Tuesday, March 2, 2010

10 comments David Schoenfield Grades Every NBA Draft...I Grade His Grades

When I found the David Schoenfield article on realigning the divisions in MLB, I also found an archive of other articles he has written that I would have usually covered here. I don't like to go too far into the past to get material for posts here, but when I was doing a search for David Schoenfield to see if he was from Canada or not, I ran into this column where he grades every NBA Draft since the lottery began and lists how the Top 10 would look if done again today. Naturally, I have a few issues with how he re-grades the Top 10 and how he grades each draft year based on the players taken. This list doesn't include the 2009 draft since it is really too early to tell and the actual draft had not happened yet when Schoenfield originally wrote this article.

By the way, I love evaluating NBA Drafts. I used to re-draft entire NBA Drafts from Pick #1 to the end of the draft when I was young. I had very few friends obviously.

How did we get here? Contrary to the beliefs of conspiracy theorists, the lottery system was not created to steer Patrick Ewing to the Knicks, who had gone 24-58 in the 1984-85 season. In fact, the system was voted in after the 1983-84 season (in which the Knicks had won 47 games and reached the conference semifinals) in reaction to the perception that the Houston Rockets had tanked down the stretch.

Of course as NBA teams have evolved through the years they don't even care that there is a lottery and they may not get the #1, #2, or #3 pick if the team stinks...teams will still tank. At least if a team is going to tank, make sure it is for the purpose of getting a good player.

The Hawks missed the playoffs but didn't win the lottery. They drew the No. 5 pick and bypassed future All-Stars such as Karl Malone, Chris Mullin and Joe Dumars to draft the forgettable Jon Koncak (4.5 points per game in his career). The Clippers, predictably, didn't win the lottery either. Drafting third, they made a pick that would pretty much define the next two-plus decades of the franchise: Benoit Benjamin, a big man of immense talent, but best remembered for once trying to enter a game wearing two left shoes.

In Benoit Benjamin's defense he wasn't that terrible of a pick by the Clippers. Yes, there were terrible players but Benjamin played in the NBA until 2000 and he wasn't all that bad when he did play for the Clippers.

1985 DRAFT IN REVIEW

The first lottery proved to be one of the best, with three future members of the original Dream Team (Patrick Ewing, Chris Mullin, Karl Malone), quality All-Stars like Joe Dumars, championship role players like A.C. Green and Mario Elie, great durability (eight players with 1,000-plus career games) and the duo of Jon Koncak and Joe Kleine, the apparent inspiration for the movie "White Men Can't Jump." GRADE: A

This sets the bar for me on how David Schoenfield is grading these drafts. Three Hall of Fame players, one near-Hall of Fame player and several good role players give a draft an "A." Bad jokes are unfortunately also going to be present in this column.

How They'd Do It Now

6. Terry Porter, Wis.-Stevens Point (24th, Blazers)

7. A.C. Green, Oregon State (23rd, Lakers)
8. Charles Oakley
9. Xavier McDaniel
10. Wayman Tisdale

I realize he did not play on any NBA Title teams and his career was shorter compared to these other guys, but I think Wayman Tisdale should be higher up on the list if this draft was re-done. He should at least be ahead of A.C. Green. There was a time when he played in the NBA when Tisdale was a pretty good player, while A.C. Green was only a role player for pretty much his entire career.

1986 DRAFT IN REVIEW

Four of the top seven picks developed drug problems, the best player in the draft (Brad Daugherty) saw his career end at age 28 with back problems, and memorable flops like Kenny "Sky" Walker and Brad Sellers punctuated the list. The lone bright spot belonged to Cleveland, which picked three solid players in Daugherty, Ron Harper and Mark Price. GRADE: D-plus

A "D+" for this draft? It wasn't a great draft but it had 5 All-Stars and the flops were balanced out a little bit by the fact there was some great values in the 2nd round with Mark Price, Nate McMillan, Dennis Rodman, Kevin Duckworth, and Jeff Hornacek drafted there. Throw in the fact Drazen Petrovic was drafted in the 3rd round of this draft and it deserves better than a "D+." Yes, the lottery was absolutely terrible but the entire draft wasn't entirely terrible. This draft should have been a solid "C-" in my mind. Every draft has flops but there were key members to late 80's and early 90's playoff teams drafted in the 1986 draft.

How They'd Do It Now

4. Ron Harper
5. Mark Price, Georgia Tech (25th, Cavs)

Obviously we are valuing championships very highly if Harper is considered a better pick than Mark Price. What it doesn't explain is why David Schoenfield has John Salley behind Chuck Person. Price was a better player than Ron Harper, but yes, Harper was on more championship teams than Price. So if the criteria is "championships a player contributed to," then Harper should be above Price (I personally don't think that should be the criteria for a re-draft). Salley was on 4 NBA Championship teams so I think he either needs to move up past Person based on that or move off the Top 10 re-do list behind Petrovic or Johnny Dawkins.

Actually, no matter how the players are being evaluated, I think Mark Price should move ahead of Ron Harper.

1987 DRAFT IN REVIEW


David Schoenfield gives this draft an "A-." It's an almost mirror image of the 1985 draft in that there are 3 Hall of Fame players and 5 All-Stars who were drafted. I don't have a problem with the grade...but I do have a problem with his re-do list.

8. Derrick McKey
9. Armen Gilliam
10. Muggsy Bogues, Wake Forest (Bullets, 12th)

No Reggie Lewis? I realize the man died before he finished his career but if we are picking a list of where the players would be drafted if the draft was re-done, he would be above all 3 of these guys at least. These were good players, but Reggie Lewis had become a good second banana on a great playoff team. This opinion has nothing to do with the fact Reggie Lewis was my favorite Celtic...I don't think.

Which brings me to a quick story. I played a game of one-on-one with Reggie Lewis' 10 year old nephew when I was in college. Lewis' older nephew was being recruited by the school I attended and his young nephew wanted to play ball while his older brother went on the recruiting visit at the school, so he challenged me to a game of one-on-one. Here is how it went after I agreed to play him:

(Lewis' nephew) "Let's pick one player from the NBA we would pretend to be."

(Me) "Ok, I want to be Larry Bird or Reggie Lewis."

(Lewis' nephew) "I want to be Reggie Lewis."

(Me) "No, you can have whoever in the world you want, but those are the only two I want to be."

(Lewis' nephew) "He was my uncle."

(Me) "I don't believe that. Where did he go to high school?"

(Lewis' nephew) "Dunbar High School. He played with Muggsy Bogues. I am here because my brother is being recruited by your school."

(Me) "Oh."

He then proceeded to rattle off other information a 10 year old should not know about Reggie Lewis. Then I looked at his brother who looked enough like Reggie Lewis to make me believe this kid. Maybe he was scamming me but I still tell people that story (obviously) because I believe it. My point is that I would put Reggie Lewis REALLY high on the 1987 draft re-do list but I think he deserves to be in the Top 10 if the draft got re-done.

1989 DRAFT IN REVIEW


The first two picks flopped, but the Lakers pulled out one of the all-time draft gems: Vlade Divac with the 26th pick. After seven solid seasons with the Lakers, he was flipped for a high school kid named Kobe Bryant.

This really shouldn't have anything to do with whether Divac was a good pick or not. It is simple to play the "what-if" game with these players and say they are better picks based on who they eventually got traded for or something like that. This is also pretty stupid. I think Divac should be evaluated based on his own merits and not who he was eventually traded for.

GRADE: B-minus

No way. 8 of the top 10 picks were busts and there were some quality players but the 1st round is essentially just a list of busts. If the 1986 draft gets a "D+" then this draft is easily a "C-" based on the awfulness of some of these picks. Pervis Ellison, Danny Ferry, George McCloud, Randy White, and J.R. Reid being drafted in the lottery say this draft should be graded on the same tough scale the 1986 draft was. This was by all accounts a terrible draft and simply because Divac ended up getting traded to the Hornets for Bryant doesn't make it any better.

1991 DRAFT IN REVIEW

Only one player from this draft averaged 15 points per game in his career (Larry Johnson). Two of the best players -- Terrell Brandon and Steve Smith -- suffered injuries that hampered their careers. And Billy Owens sure looked like he had the total package. GRADE: C

How They'd Do It Now

1. Dikembe Mutombo
2. Steve Smith
3. Larry Johnson

I disagree. Larry Johnson would be chosen over Steve Smith if the draft was to be done over again. Sure he ended up being solely a three point shooter at the end of his career (due to back problems etc.), but early in his career he was one of the best players in the NBA. Come on, he was "Grandmama!"

9. Greg Anthony, UNLV (12th, Knicks)
10. Billy Owens

How about Darrell Armstrong in one of these spots...and not just because he was born in my hometown. He played in the league for 13 years and had a very quality span in the NBA from 1998 to 2004. Move Armstrong over Owens and Anthony.

1992 DRAFT IN REVIEW

The first two picks worked out. The rest of the draft? Not so much, although Christian Laettner was better than you realize, and Harold Miner had that awesome dunk contest. GRADE: B

I think this draft should get a B+. I know it feels like I am splitting hairs, but it's more of a B+ because this isn't as bad of a draft as you would all think. David Schoenfield ranks Jimmy Jackson as the #10 player if this draft was done over and that isn't too bad. When Jimmy Jackson is the 10th best player taken, that was a fairly quality draft.

I am pretty pumped about this draft and I honestly think it almost deserves an A-. I should probably calm down though, because it isn't that good of a draft and I know this subconsciously.

Worst pick: Harold Miner, Heat (12th).

I would have to go with Adam Keefe on this one. Atlanta passed up Latrell Sprewell, Robert Horry, Doug Christie, and P.J. Brown. At least Miner was a decent player but Adam Keefe was just useless.

1993 DRAFT IN REVIEW


How They'd Do It Now

This "how they'd do it now" is all jacked up.

3. Anfernee Hardaway
4. Vin Baker

In a seriousness, I would put Vin Baker over Anfernee Hardaway. Baker is a drunk and gained weight, but he was incredibly good for a while. Hardaway was a great player as well but I think Baker was better than Hardaway in each of their primes.

6. Bryon Russell, Long Beach St. (45th, Jazz)
7. Jamal Mashburn

Mashburn over Russell.

9. Shawn Bradley
10. Rodney Rogers

Two undrafted players, Bruce Bowen and David Wesley should be in the top 10 and I would possibly put one or both in place of Rodgers or Bradley. I like Shawn Bradley but he was a massive disappointment as the 2nd pick of the draft.

Worst pick: Calbert Cheaney, Bullets (6th).

Shawn Bradley is the winner here. Yes, Cheaney was a bad player but the 76ers passed up Hardaway and Mashburn as well as Houston, Sprewell, Cassell, and Van Exel, while the Bullets only passed up Houston, Sprewell, Cassell, and Van Exel.

1994 DRAFT IN REVIEW

This seems like a list of guys who put up OK numbers for bad teams (Glenn Robinson with the Bucks, Jalen Rose with the bad Bulls teams, Wesley Person with the pre-LeBron Cavs). Heck, Eric Piatkowski is seventh in this draft for career games played. GRADE: D-plus

Absolutely not. This is too low of a grade. This draft has one Hall of Fame player in Jason Kidd, one great player in Grant Hill, and regardless of whether these players put up good numbers on bad teams, it doesn't mean they are bad players. Jalen Rose was a key part of the Pacers playoff teams. Whether a player is high on a list for career games played or not doesn't necessarily indicate a player was good or not. I give this draft a "C-."

Worst pick: Sharone Wright, Sixers (6th).

No way. The Bucks had the chance to get Grant Hill or Jason Kidd and blew it, so I think any time a team takes a decent player but could have gotten a Hall of Fame player the original player was a bad pick. Sharone Wright is close to being the worst pick, I will admit that, but the Bucks could have changed their entire franchise with the choice of Jason Kidd and they didn't.

I think it is sad this draft was the one that ended up on "NBA Jam: Tournament Edition" because other than Grant Hill and Jason Kidd there wasn't too much to get excited about in regard to the rookies on that game.

1996 DRAFT IN REVIEW

Perhaps no team has pulled out more good players outside of the top-10 picks than the Lakers. In this draft, the Hornets drafted Kobe Bryant for L.A. with the 13th pick and traded him for Vlade Divac. The Lakers later added Arkansas Little-Rock guard Derek Fisher with the 24th pick. If you want to rank him ahead of Stephon Marbury, we won't argue. Oh, and a draft with four Hall of Famers rates a … GRADE: A

This draft was a definite "A+." I would almost call this the best lottery draft of all-time with the 1985 and 2003 draft being in contention as well for this title. Four Hall of Fame players and 11 All-Stars came from this draft.

How They'd Do It Now

Here is a list of players LEFT OUT of David Schoenfield's re-do of the 1996 NBA Draft.

Stephon Marbury, Derek Fisher and Kerry Kittles, Malik Rose. That's a pretty good draft, even if it feels a bit top-heavy.

Worst pick: Todd Fuller, Warriors (11th).

With all due respect to how bad Todd Fuller truly was, in a draft that had this many good players, I think the Clippers (go figure) pick of Lorenzen Wright #7 over Kobe Bryant, Peja, Nash, Jermaine O'Neal, Big Z, and Ben Wallace has to be the worst pick of the draft. It was the first pick that was a big miss and they passed over 2 Hall of Fame players.

This was a great draft.

1997 DRAFT IN REVIEW


This draft got a grade of "C" but it did also contain a man by the name of Marko Milic. He is not related to Darko Milic.

Other than that, this draft had big hits and some big misses. I would almost give this draft a "D." When Derek Anderson is the 6th best player in the draft...that can't be good.

How They'd Do It Now

10. Tony Battie

Battie over Austin Croshere or Anthony Parker? I don't know about this. Longevity aside, I may put one of those guys over Battie.

1998 DRAFT IN REVIEW

A draft with star talent at the top and excellent depth (17 players with career scoring averages in double digits). Of course, some of those double-digit scorers were one-dimensional gunners like Larry Hughes, Ricky Davis and Bonzi Wells. GRADE: B-plus

This draft has 2 Hall of Fame players and 6 All-Stars. I think the depth of this draft makes it better than a "B-." Though admittedly there isn't a bunch of great players there was a pretty deep field to choose from for teams and there were guys who ended up being head cases, like Hughes, Davis and Wells, but there were also guys who contributed to teams like Matt Harpring, Keon Clark, Rafer Alston, and Earl Boykins. I think it is a Grade "B" draft.

There are two ways to get a "B" draft for me. First, a draft where there are great players that come from the draft, or a top heavy draft, and the second way is for a draft to be deep with players that contribute in some fashion to a team while they are playing in the NBA. The draft may not quite have the talent base but a team choosing a player has a good chance of getting a contributor from the draft. I find the 1998 draft to be this way.

Except for Michael Olowokandi of course. He could never contribute because he sucked. What kind of center has a 43.5% career shooting percentage?

1999 DRAFT IN REVIEW

A draft deep with solid All-Star-caliber players. Meanwhile, the Knicks still await the debut of first-rounder Frederic Weis. GRADE: B

I actually agree with this grade of a "B." If this draft had a guy who could be considered a Hall of Fame-type guy then maybe I could bump up the grade a little bit. The draft does have a bunch of guys who are great contributors to teams and 9 All-Stars with guys who are almost All-Stars like Lamar Odom and Andre Miller (or were almost All-Stars at one time).

How They'd Do It Now

4. Andre Miller
7. Lamar Odom
8. Baron Davis
9. Andrei Kirilenko, Russia (24th, Jazz)
10. Ron Artest, St. John's (16th, Bulls)

Someone thinks very highly of Andre Miller. I like Andre Miller but I would almost draft him after all of these other guys. Miller is a good point guard but I don't know if he is any better than Baron Davis and I would probably take Lamar Odom over him as well.

Worst pick: Jonathan Bender, Pacers (5th).

I am going to defend this pick simply because injuries killed any shot he had of playing in the NBA. I would say the worst pick was Trajan Langdon. The Cavs passed over Maggette, Artest, Kirilenko, and Manu Ginobli. Langdon's only excuse for being bad in the NBA is that he went to Duke and was overvalued simply because of that. Bender at least had injuries to blame on his lack of production.

2000 DRAFT IN REVIEW


GRADE: F

There is no way I can argue with this grade. This was a terrible, terrible draft. Only three guys in this entire draft have ever made an All-Star team and the entire lottery is like a who's who of underachieving players and role players. Not surprisingly, the Clippers had 3 picks in this draft? Really why shouldn't they have three picks in the worst draft over the 25 years of the lottery? Yes, some of these guys are still in the NBA today, but that doesn't mean this wasn't a bad draft.

Worst pick: Marcus Fizer, Bulls (4th).

It's impossible to make a "worst pick" for this draft. Hell, I would almost go with Stromile Swift as the worst pick or any of the other picks behind him...but what were the other options for teams? There weren't any great players available.

2001 DRAFT IN REVIEW

The top 10 had more busts than an episode of "The Real Housewives of New Jersey," but there were some good finds later in the draft. GRADE: C-plus

I actually agree with this grade. I thought David Schoenfield would underrate this class a little bit, but I think he did a good job actually (look at me being complimentary). On some days you could have me give this class a "B-" but I am not feeling that generous today.

How They'd Do It Now

3. Richard Jefferson, Arizona (Nets)
4. Joe Johnson

No way. Those two guys should be switched. I feel fooled by Richard Jefferson. I thought he was going to be a big piece to the Spurs this year but he hasn't fit in at all. I feel like he has been a sort of fraud, playing 2nd/3rd banana on some teams making me think he was a little bit better player than he truly was. I would rank Joe Johnson over Jefferson if the draft was done over again.

7. Tyson Chandler
8. Jason Richardson
10. Troy Murphy, Notre Dame (14th, Warriors)

No Gerald Wallace or no Zach Randolph? As much as I love Chandler and Jason Richardson I think I would draft Wallace over both of them. Maybe, depending on who you are, Randolph should sneak in over Murphy. I am not that person but I see how an argument could be made.

2002 DRAFT IN REVIEW

The biggest this problem this class has faced has been staying healthy, from Jay Williams' career-ending motorcycle crash to Dajuan Wagner needing his colon removed to ailments suffered by Yao Ming (93 games missed), Amare Stoudemire (140), Mike Dunleavy (75) and Nene (204). GRADE: C

I have to say, this class feels a bit like a "B-" or a "C+" to me. I know you as the reader may think I am overrating these classes, but let me explain. While this class doesn't have Hall of Fame players that came out of it and only has 4 guys who have ever been voted onto an All-Star team, I think it makes up for it in guys later in the draft who contributed.

I bump this draft up a grade for the following guys who contribute to their teams in the NBA, weren't among the Top 10 players if the draft was re-done and were found in the 2nd round or were completely undrafted:

Roger Mason Jr.
Matt Barnes
Darius Songalia
Rasual Butler
Juan Carlos Navarro
Reggie Evans
Udonis Haslem
Devin Brown
Smush Parker

The last four of those guys weren't drafted at all. Many of those guys represent better value than a team would expect to get as undrafted free agents or in the 2nd round. I think that bumps this draft up a slight notch in conjunction with the fact it wasn't a bad first round draft either.

2003 DRAFT IN REVIEW

No denying the greatness of the top four, and the depth that includes guys like Mickael Pietrus, Boris Diaw and Kyle Korver, but it seems like it will fall a bit short of the immortal 1984 draft (Jordan, Olajuwon, Barkley, Stockton, Alvin Robertson, Kevin Willis, Otis Thorpe, Sam Perkins, Jerome Kersey and Michael Cage's Jheri curl). GRADE: A

I think I am going to go ahead and go there in comparing this to the 1984 Draft. I think the 2003 draft is better. I don't think it is better when comparing player to player, but I think overall in regard to depth and quality of the players drafted, the 2003 draft was better.

Plus, no players from the 2003 NBA Draft have been arrested for sex-trafficking.

The Top 15 players from the 1984 NBA Draft:

1. Michael Jordan
2. Hakeem Olajuwon
3. Charles Barkley
4. John Stockton
5. Alvin Robertson
6. Kevin Willis
7. Otis Thorpe
8. Sam Perkins
9. Jerome Kersey
10. Michael Cage
11. Sam Bowie
12. Rick Carlisle
13. Eddie Lee Wilkins
14. Vern Fleming
15. Jay Humphries

See the drop off there?

Now for the Top 15 players of the 2003 NBA Draft (Schoenfield's Top 10 plus 5 other players):

1. LeBron James
2. Dwayne Wade
3. Carmelo Anthony
4. Chris Bosh
5. David West
6. Josh Howard
7. Kirk Hinrich
8. Leandra Barbosa
9. Mo Williams
10. Chris Kaman
11. Mickael Pietrus
12. Boris Diaw
13. Kendrick Perkins
14. Kyle Korver
15. Jason Kapono

Sure there is a drop-off, but that's leaving off guys like Marquis Daniels, Nick Collison, and Luke Ridnour. I didn't leave that many guys off the 1984 team. I think depth-wise the 2003 NBA Draft will end up being better. You could almost fill in the entire 1st round with players who have contributed to their NBA teams. That's a pretty good draft.

2004 DRAFT IN REVIEW

The Magic took the right guy in high schooler Dwight Howard, Luke Jackson proved to be one of the all-time top-10 busts, and if Robert Swift ever develops this grade will go up. GRADE: B-minus

I feel like I am overrating these draft classes...but I think this class is a solid "B." The following players also came from this class that aren't in Schoenfield's "do-over" Top 10:

J.R. Smith, Andris Biedrins, Delonte West, Anderson Varejao, Trevor Ariza, and it wasn't like Josh Childress stunk before he went overseas to play.

Worst pick: Shaun Livingston, Clippers (4th).

I have a hard time criticizing a team for drafting a player who had 2 serious injuries that were essentially out of his control. Rafael Araujo contributed nearly nothing to the Raptors and they passed over Iguodala, Jefferson, Josh Smith and Jameer Nelson.

Worst pick: Fran Vazquez, Magic (11th).

I will agree this was a bad pick, but who did the Magic pass over? David Lee, Monta Ellis, or Danny Granger? Both Milwaukee and Atlanta passed over two franchise changing players in Deron Williams and Chris Paul for guys who aren't bad, are solid 4th/5th starters. I think it is worse to pass over a couple franchise changing players in this situation.

2007 DRAFT IN REVIEW


Ready for some idiocy? You better be.

How They'd Do It Now

1. Kevin Durant
2. Al Horford
3. Thaddeus Young, Georgia Tech (12th, Sixers)

I think this is a little high for Thaddeus Young in a re-do of the draft.

4. Greg Oden

Absolutely not. I don't like to count injuries against players but the fact is we know he has been injured all the time, which is the entire point of a re-draft, and we know there are other players who haven't been injured who have played well in the NBA. Schoenfield thinks Oden would go 4th in the draft? Ahead of the following guys?

5. Marc Gasol, Spain (48th, Lakers)
6. Jeff Green

Height and potential counts for something but I don't know if it counts for that much honestly to take Oden over Green and (Not Pau) Gasol.

Knowing what we know now, I would probably take the next two players over Oden also.

7. Spencer Hawes
8. Al Thornton

Oden is not terrible, but he has been injured all the time when he played and when re-doing the draft that has to count for something.

9. Mike Conley
10. Ramon Sessions, Nevada (56th, Bucks)

Not Rodney Stuckey, Aaron Brooks or Wilson Chandler over these two guys? I would personally think about replacing Brooks at least over these two guys.

Worst pick: Greg Oden, Blazers (1st).

What? So the guy who David Schoenfield would pick 4th if the 2007 NBA draft was re-done is also his choice for the worst pick of the 2007 NBA Draft? This doesn't make sense. He can't have it both ways. Either Oden was a bad pick or he wasn't a bad pick.

I know it is hard to predict the future but if Oden wasn't a bad pick then I would go with Acie Law for the worst pick. It was a bad pick because it was supposed to make up for not drafting Chris Paul a few years earlier. Which goes to prove the current Hawks team is good despite the front office's ability to judge talent. If Oden was a bad pick then he wouldn't go 4th if the draft was re-done.

2008 DRAFT IN REVIEW

Derrick Rose led a terrific rookie season for this class, with O.J. Mayo, Eric Gordon and Michael Beasley showing the potential to develop into big-time scorers. GRADE: B

I think this draft has the ability to be an "A-" draft when all is said and done. J.J. Hickson is currently developing fairly well in Cleveland, Mareese Speights needs to start staying healthy, and George Hill and Nicholas Batum are also becoming solid contributors to their teams.

Even Cole Aldrich's predecessor and probable NBA equivalent got drafted in the 2nd round. Maybe CSKA Moscow will sign Aldrich after he busts in the NBA and he and Kaun can be a fearsome frontline for a few years overseas with CSKA Moscow! I am kidding, of course, Cole Aldrich is going to be the greatest center of all-time in the NBA.

Worst pick: Hey, we're not ready to write off Danilo Gallinari just yet. Check back in a few years.

How about Joe Alexander? Go ahead and say he is the worst pick and write him off because he hasn't done anything in the NBA and the Bucks passed over talented players for him.

It's a bit too early to judge the 2009 draft class (and Schoenfield wrote this article before the draft)...but I will judge them anyway.

How They'd Do It Now (without paying to which team is actually drafting and the needs of that team)

1. Tyreke Evans
2. Stephon Curry
3. Blake Griffin
4. Ricky Rubio
5. Johnny Flynn
6. DeJuan Blair
7. Ty Lawson
8. Omri Casspi
9. James Harden
10. Darren Collison

Best pick: Tyreke Evans
Worst pick (of the last 10 years): Hasheem Thabeet

I would like to go through each draft since 1985 and find a way to rank each player to determine which draft since the lottery was started was actually the best. That sounds like fun, but it also sounds like it is pretty time consuming. This sounds like something a professional journalist (is there such thing?) should do.

At this point I would rank the top 3 drafts since 1985 as the 2003, 1985, and 1996 drafts.

Monday, March 1, 2010

16 comments MMQB Review: OT Changes Edition

I often whine when Peter King posts his MMQB later on Monday mornings and this week is going to be no different. He's had all week to compile and begin writing his MMQB and there are no football games for him to cover, so why can't he get it posted earlier than 10am on Monday? Doesn't he understand the later he posts MMQB the less time I have to cover it? What about me and my need to mock him in a timely fashion, doesn't he care about this at all? Apparently he does not.

Today, Peter talks about overtime and other NFL "insider" things like how uncomfortable it is to see a person breastfeed in public. You know, the important NFL stuff.

The Saints had some fun with Jerry Jones' favorite wine Friday night.

Now I am riveted! Peter, please tell me more about Jerry Jones' favorite bottle of wine and exactly what the Saints did with it. This is the voice I have when I care about something...which is the voice I am using here, because I really care about this.

On Friday night, the Saints' staff at the combine gathered in a private room at St. Elmo Steakhouse, an 108-year-old Indy landmark, for a final celebratory nod to the Super Bowl win over the Colts. This is a group that likes its wine, and likes to have fun.

The Saints are the epitome of unfocused after that Super Bowl win. I am going to go ahead and put the Saints down for a 7-9 record next year. Has any NFL team ever celebrated so much after winning the Super Bowl that you can remember?

It's fine to celebrate a little bit after you win a Super Bowl, but there comes a point when the celebrating stop and the preparing for the next season begins. Most Super Bowl teams say the reason they don't repeat is because it is so hard to focus after the Super Bowl. I wonder if that will happen to the Saints?

At the restaurant, word passed that Dallas owner Jerry Jones would have his Dallas group in this exact room Saturday night for a team dinner. Jones had even phoned ahead, according to a waiter, to make sure a magnum of a wine he loved, Caymus Special Selection cabernet sauvignon, was ready to be served at dinner.

Sean Payton told the waiter he'd like to have that wine, too. The waiter told him: Sorry, sir. We have only one bottle left, and it's reserved for Mr. Jones.

Let me guess, Sean Payton threw a temper tantrum and wouldn't allow the waiter to ever watch Saints games in the Superdome ever again? Then he tried to kick the cook out of the building while Payton's group was there because he didn't like his attitude?

Payton said he'd like to have the bottle nonetheless. I assume there was much angst on the part of the wait staff at that point. My God! Who do we piss off? One of the most powerful owners in the NFL, or the coach who's the toast of the NFL, the coach who just won the Super Bowl?

Piss off the coach. It's no contest. Jerry Jones will buy your children and force them into slavery. Then he will hire your children (the ones he sold in slavery) to work Cowboys games in cages above the field while wearing signs that say, "Don't fuck with Jerry Jones." PISS OFF SEAN PAYTON, NOT JERRY JONES!

But drinking Jones' wine wasn't enough. Payton gave the waiter some instructions, took out his pen ... and, well, the Cowboys party found at the middle of their table the next evening an empty magnum of Caymus Special Selection cabernet sauvignon, with these words hand-written on the fancy label:

WHO DAT!
World Champions XLIV
Sean Payton

To which the Cowboys sent a bottle of wine to the Saints that said:

Tired Old Motto
Cowboys Have 5 Super Bowls
Talk to Us When You Get There

That's the kind of thing Jones will get a big laugh out of. And remember.

Yeah, I am sure knowing Jerry Jones he was laughing really hard at this. The bottle of wine he especially called ahead to make sure was there was drunk by one of his ex-assistant coaches. I know Jones and Payton are buddies, but this was still a pretty dick move by Payton. I don't hate the Saints but doesn't anyone else get the feeling they are getting a little too proud of this Super Bowl win? It's one thing to win the Super Bowl, kudos to you, but to feel the need to piss around and remind everyone whenever given the opportunity your team just won the Super Bowl is a bit annoying. Act like you have been there before. Sean Payton doesn't seem to be doing this.

I know I've gotten this reputation as a fan (maybe haranguer is a better word) of overtime reform, but I just know that so much has changed since the NFL adopted a sudden-death system in 1974 that it deserves a second look.

But Peter only decided to advocate the OT change when Peyton Manning lost a playoff game when he didn't touch the ball.

The committee will likely unanimously endorse a plan to be introduced for the 2010 playoffs, one that will ensure both teams will get at least one possession in overtime, unless one team scores a touchdown on the first possession of overtime. A touchdown (either on special teams, offense or defense) on the first possession ends the game. No touchdown means the game goes to sudden death on the second possession. There would still be a coin flip to start overtime, and the winner would still choose whether to take the ball or play defense on the first possession of the extra period.

So the solution to the overtime situation is to only change it to where a team has to score a touchdown to win the game? It's an improvement, but not a huge improvement. The coin flip still plays a big part and teams are still going to choose to be on offense first. Maybe this idea will work better, but I don't see how this really changes too much. Peyton Manning would still have never touched the ball in OT in the 2008 playoffs and it doesn't fix the core problem that one team's offense may never touch the ball.

Except for the lousy performances of kickers in the playoffs this year, you can see why teams play for the field goal in overtime. Teams surely do: Since 1994, 73 percent of overtime games have been won by a field goal.

So this change might actually prevent this from happening? I don't know how much I actually like this OT change, but at least it is an idea. I am not sure if this idea will pass. This seems like a bigger change than NFL teams have been willing to make in the past. I could be wrong.

More balls returned instead of touchbacks, essentially. In overtime, teams are tired, mistakes are made. Instead of the offense taking over at the 20, now there's more of a chance to get a big edge on the opening kick and make a short drive for a field goal.

Apparently Peter thinks in overtime when mistakes are made because the teams are tired, it is only the kicking team that makes the mistakes and not the receiving team. Of course this logically doesn't make a whole heck of a lot of sense. If the players are tired, both the kicking and receiving team would be tired. While the kicking team may not tackle as well, the receiving team may not block as well.

Do you realize that Peyton Manning, Jeff Saturday and Reggie Wayne, the vets the Colts want to uber-protect from injury, have not played an overtime snap in the past 88 Indianapolis games? The Colt D had to play a series in the overtime playoff loss at San Diego in the 2008 season, but the offense hasn't played a fifth quarter since Dec. 26, 2004.

Do you realize I don't care about obscure statistics concerning the Colts?

I always hear players don't want to change the rule. I talked with three who attended the meeting in Indianapolis, and none seemed bothered by the change that could extend overtime a few plays. "I'm super in favor of it,'' Winston said. "I'd like to see the game not be so dependent on the coin flip.''

Overtime will still be dependent on the coin flip. Teams are still going to try and get the ball first in overtime so they can try and score a touchdown. The coin flip still plays a big part, it's just teams have to score touchdowns now instead of just kicking field goals in overtime to automatically win the game.

If Team A scores a field goal on the first possession, Team B would never punt, thus increasing its chance to score and extend the game. As the football analyst Brian Burke wrote in an email this weekend: "The second team with possession will have 33 percent more downs available to them on every series, without being concerned about the clock, and scoring becomes much more likely.''

Of course Team A doesn't HAVE to kick the field goal, they could go for it, thereby giving them the same amount of downs as Team B. This could happen if a team was bold...and we all know fortune favors the bold.

Of course a drawback to this system is that OT could last for a while if teams are just exchanging field goals.

Now for the network story. NFL Network and ESPN will have the built-in tease of all time for day two of the draft -- provided, of course, that Tim Tebow is not chosen in the first round. I'd say it looks unlikely he goes in round one, but you never know how his stock will rise and fall in the next seven weeks.

But I thought Peter said Tebow was going in the 1st round and a really smart team like the Patriots would nab him then? This is what Peter has told us, I can't believe it is not true. As great as Tebow was in college, you are telling me a team doesn't want to spend a 1st round pick on a quarterback who is completely redoing his throwing motion? I don't believe it.

Tebow's going to be in a tough position -- as will his agent, Jimmy Sexton. How much access does he give the networks to the vulnerable Tebow at that point? They'll be frothing over Tebow. Not that this is going to help Tebow in the eyes of the public. My e-mail and Twitter followers seems to feel about Tebow the same way they feel about Brett Favre: They're sick of him.

That would be a Brett Favre mention and Peter King starts a new streak of talking about Brett Favre in every MMQB beginning today, March 1, 2010. I like how Peter is assuming Tebow won't be taken in the 1st round and creates a fake hypothetical situation where networks want to speak to him as the guy who "fell" in the draft. Peter has created a whole fake situation and is asking tough questions about a situation that may never happen.

Let's slow down a little bit and let Tebow not get picked in the 1st round before we start worrying about whether Tim Tebow will be in demand by the networks on the 2nd day of the NFL Draft.

With the draft beginning at 4:30 p.m. West Coast time Thursday and continuing Friday at 3:30 PST, I understand the anger of left-coasters at the NFL. But if the ratings sing -- as is the case with so much in the NFL -- this format will become permanent.

I like how the NFL is following MLB's standard of "let's set up the draft or playoffs to where the fewest people possible can watch the entire thing." (Of course if unemployment stays like it does, maybe more people can watch than I think would be able to) Just like baseball insists on starting games at 8:30pm and then having 4 hour playoff games, the NFL has decided they don't give a shit if the West Coast gets to see their team draft or not.

I was encouraged to see a guy I like a lot, Stanford's big back, Toby Gerhart, run a 4.53, a little better than people thought he would. Anyone who watched Gerhart play last season and who would think he can't play in this league and play at a high level just doesn't know football.

Remember Peter last week talking about how the Combine doesn't mean much? Well he says he doesn't put much stock in it again this week, then he starts talking about players being good or bad based on how fast they ran at the Combine. The Combine means jack shit, except when Peter needs something to talk about or prove a point he has of course.

Disappointing runner: all-purpose back Dexter McCluster of Ole Miss. He ran in the 4.5s. Not good for a guy who weighs 171. He sure plays better (and looks faster) than that.

Of course as Peter said last week, this means nothing. So McCluster's disappointing showing shouldn't really matter should it?

He told me he'd examined lots of offensive linemen in his years coming to the combine, but Maryland tackle Bruce Campbell was the best physical specimen he'd ever seen. And when he ran a 4.78 40, one of the fastest by a lineman ever, Campbell's stock shot up all over town.

Except for the unnamed team architect whose draft board is 90% set. He isn't impressed with Bruce Campbell. By the way, the Raiders 1st round pick has just been decided.

I'm not saying the sculpted 6-foot-6, 314-pound Campbell won't be a good player, but he's sounding like a Raider pick to me.

I swear to God I wrote what I wrote above before I read what Peter just wrote here. I don't have to read the entire MMQB every week before I start writing, I know I am going to cover it. Either way, Bruce Campbell just sounds like a Raiders offensive lineman.

The game had it all, with one thing no other game of this magnitude in another sport has: The Americans and Canadians were playing for free, essentially, in the Olympic gold medal game.

I have a minor quibble with this statement. I know the World Baseball Classic isn't huge but I am pretty sure some countries take it very seriously and the baseball players play it for free. There are also other baseball tournaments where the players are playing for their home country for free and many countries take these tournaments seriously.

I do see what Peter is saying though.

Tweet of the Week


"Watching in airport bar. Even Charlie Weis, seated across from me, was screaming like he was named newly crowed prom queen.''
--@RickMaese, Washington Post football writer Rick Maese, tweeting from the Indianapolis International Airport at the moment when Zach Parise's goal in the final minute of the third period tied the USA-Canada game at 2 and forced overtime.

That gave me a disgusting mental image. It was like the movie "Carrie" except with Kristie Alley. Can we agree never to say "prom queen" and "Charlie Weis" in the same sentence again?

Quote of the Week II


"I'm 6-1 and a quarter, 217 [pounds]. I'd like to say I'm 6-4, but this is what God gave me. I did my absolute best in college. I played for four years. I started 53 games in a row ... We won more games in college than anyone else. So I don't know what more anybody can ask of me.''
-- Texas quarterback Colt McCoy, who drew the inevitable comparisons to another 6-1 (maybe) quarterback, Drew Brees, at the Scouting Combine.

To which every University of Texas football fan responds, "we could have used a National Championship from you. That is what else we could ask of you."

Quote of the Week IV


"I am not going to put him in a box ... Would it be nice to know sooner than later? Yeah, but you have to be able to deal with uncertainty and ambiguity in this business, whether you're a player, whether you're a coach, and you have to deal with it.''
-- Minnesota coach Brad Childress, on the will-he-or-won't-he drama of 40-year-old quarterback Brett Favre. The team awaits Favre's decision on whether he'll play or retire.

Translation: "Brett Favre does whatever the fuck he wants to do. I have no control over him. I call the plays he tells me to call and I do what he tells me to do. If he wants to decide the night before the first game of the 2010 NFL season he is playing the entire season and he wants to be the starter, I will let him do that. I will never question him. He is the coa---I mean he is a great player."

3. Had my head buried in my MacBook Air on an AirTran flight home to Boston for 15 or 20 minutes Sunday, and I paid no attention to the woman and baby across the aisle until I heard the sound of a baby struggling a bit. I turned to see the woman positioning the tot for some breast-feeding. No blanket, no clothing covering anything. Just a breast.

Oh my God! Just a breast! How dare this woman attempt to feed her infant in public! If you are on an airplane, at least go out on the wing or to the engine room and feed your baby.

You don't want to jerk your head away or you're a prude. You don't want to focus on it too long or you're a perv. So I, uh, moved my head deliberately back to the computer and MADE ABSOLUTELY SURE I DIDN'T LOOK THAT WAY FOR THE REST OF THE FLIGHT. See how open-minded I am?

You aren't a prude if you jerk your head away and I don't think this lady was concerned Peter was a prude. I am pretty sure the woman wouldn't have been worried the slightly overweight guy in the aisle seat in 15A looked away too quickly as she pulled out her breast to feed her baby. She isn't going to yell at Peter for being a prude if he didn't stare at her. That being said, not looking at the woman was the best move.

d. Like what Ross Tucker said on Twitter about Tebow after his terrific workout at nearly tight-end size. Tucker thinks teams will look harder at him now at a tight end or H-back type.

Yes, but then comes the inevitable question of where you draft a guy as a tight end or H-back when he has never played that position in college or high school. Usually those types of guys go undrafted or are drafted later, while Tebow is going to be taken earlier in the draft. He can be successful in the NFL, but I really think we need to decide on a position for him first.

g. Scouts think Jimmy Clausen's too cocky.

You mean the guy who called a press conference to announce his college choice and the same guy who had a ESPN do a feature on him while he was still in high school? No way. He may be too cocky?

5. I think I wouldn't be surprised if the union got some help from Capitol Hill in forcing the owners to open their books, so players could get a full accounting of exactly how much they're making.

I think the players should be able to get a good look at the books. If Congress has given the NFL an anti-trust exemption, they sure as hell have the authority to force the owners to open up their books and show their income...at least in my opinion. Of course the owners don't want the players to do this because how much money they are making would be revealed.

6. I think the Saints are close to a long-term deal with guard Jahri Evans, which would be a coup. They don't want to keep having to tag him and paying him a high guaranteed salary; they'd like to finalize a long-term deal with the most valuable player on their line.

I am not sure how re-signing their own free agent is a coup, but I guess we are at the point where anything the New Orleans Saints do is noteworthy.

9. I think Mike Holmgren looked and sounded like a man with a sense of urgency to pick a quarterback, put him under center, and let him play 16 games -- without the pressure of looking over his shoulder at the backup. "A quarterback needs two full seasons before you can judge him. What's Brady Quinn started? Twelve games? How can we know if he's the guy?'' Just from listening to him, it sounds like the Browns will give the job to Quinn, draft a passer sometime after the first round, and groom him in case Quinn's not The Man.

I don't necessarily think Brady Quinn will be a good NFL quarterback, but he hasn't played that much as the starter for the team. I say give him a chance and hire a coaching staff that will actually give him a chance to succeed. It's not fair to rip young quarterbacks in and out of the starting lineup when they don't have coaches around them to help them succeed. Sadly, giving a young quarterback the opportunity to start a game without the pressure of being pulled and getting good coaching seems to be a novel idea in Cleveland.

b. Loved what Conan O'Brien Tweeted, about interviewing a squirrel in the backyard the other day and threw to a commercial. "Somebody help me,'' he pleaded.

Look for Peter King's book coming out next week "Twitter Cliffs Notes." He will break down 140 letter Tweets into 140 letter explanations of that Tweet.

d. Bring on baseball. Lots of it. I've got to get ready for my Rotisserie Draft, and I have no idea who's closing for Tampa Bay.

Rafael Soriano? He's never played for Boston, I can see how Peter wouldn't know this.

Speaking of Boston, Peter wonders who this Mike Cameron guy is for the Red Sox? He's pretty good at centerfield...did he just get called up from Pawtucket?

i. Conrad Hotel, you can't be beat.

The Conrad Hotel is not a living object, it can't read or hear what Peter has just typed here. Why he typed it as if he were communicating with the hotel, I will never know.

j. I just don't think the Super Bowl should be schedule to be played outdoors in February in New Jersey. So shoot me.

Is that an open invitation?

Also, nice grammar by Peter here, "should be schedule." Even when he has a few extra hours (or days) to work on and turn in his MMQB he can't seem to avoid a few mistakes.

I look forward to next week when Peter has a few more interesting facts about the Combine and how it affects each player's draft status...even though it doesn't matter of course since the Combine is overrated, because Peter is still going to base his opinion of players on how they perform at the Combine.