Showing posts with label Stewart Mandel. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Stewart Mandel. Show all posts

Tuesday, January 19, 2010

7 comments I Like These Two Guys But.....Not This

When I am asked to make a list of sportswriters that I like, which happens occasionally since I mostly complain about sportswriters here and sometimes people wonder which ones I do like, I always list Jason Whitlock and Stewart Mandel. I like Whitlock because he believes what he writes and he doesn't seem to have any motives for what he is writing. He is interesting to read because that's how he writes, not because he tries. Sometimes he is wrong when he takes shots at people, like today. I like Stewart Mandel because I find his coverage of college football to be very knowledgeable and informative. He seems to do his homework and know what he is talking about when he is writing his columns. It doesn't mean I don't disagree with them from time and time and feel the need to feature them here...oh no, it's not at all what it means.

Before we get to them, I wanted to display some idiocy in voting for NFL postseason awards. 4 morons voted for Brett Favre as "Comeback Player of the Year" in the NFL this year. Peter King had Favre as Comeback Player of the Year in his mid-season awards, but fortunately he found some brains and voted for Tom Brady by the end of the year. The same can't be said about the 4 other idiots though.

Tom Brady won the award, collecting 19 of the 50 votes. I think either Vince Young or Cadillac Williams made much better comeback stories,

All three are valid winners of this award. Though I know someone could argue a little bit with Young's inclusion. He may have "only" had mental problems, but he was counted out by a good portion of the population who watches football (including myself), so after essentially sitting out last year and playing well this year he has a small claim to be voted for in regard to this award.

Brady got 19 votes, Williams got 14, Young got 7, Cedric Benson got 4, and Brett Favre got 4.

Can someone explain to me exactly what Brett Favre "came back" from? He played last year. He played miserably over the last five games of the season and cost the Jets a playoff spot, but he played.

Exactly. How the hell can someone "comeback" when they played an entire season the year before and started every single one of those games as well? You can't come back if you never left.

Yeah, he also had some arm surgery, but offseason surgery isn't exactly a rarity in the NFL.

There would be a list of players a mile along who would be eligible for this award if the criteria included players who had offseason surgery. Not to mention Favre could have easily had the surgery early in the spring/summer and been back in time for training camp...assuming he cared to join his team for training camp of course.

It's an insult to the real comeback stories that make sports fun to follow. If you're just a jerk, and then you play well, that doesn't qualify as a comeback. It makes you a jerk who's good at sports.

This isn't Brett Favre's fault because he didn't vote for himself, this is the fault of 4 people who seem to think if a player plays an entire year one season and then decides he may or may not want to retire, but ends up playing again...this player actually come back from something. After this the author makes a "Rocky III" comparison but I leave all "Rocky" comparisons for Bill Simmons columns, so I will leave that alone.

-Now onto the NFL Truths that Jason Whitlock wants us to all believe.

There is no more difficult job in sports writing than criticizing Peyton Manning.

He epitomizes what we want in a high-profile athlete. He loves and respects the game. He’s committed and well-prepared. He’s highly skilled, fun to watch and maintains an air of humility. He is easy to like and respect.

Wait for it, here it comes...the twist.

When he retires, he’ll own just about every meaningful career passing record and some experts will argue that Manning is the greatest quarterback of all time.

I can’t go there. Not now. Not without significantly more postseason success.

Exactly, I agree. I think by the end of his career 250+ starts should be completely overshadowed by the 30-something playoff games he will play in during his career. I mean it makes statistical sense really to base him being the greatest quarterback of all-time on his performance in as small of a sample size as possible. So what if Manning was a great regular season quarterback in (what will be) 250+ games, he was only average in the postseason when compared to the other greatest quarterbacks of all-time.

He may not be the best of all-time but he should at least be in the conversation.

Yes, he’s battled a big-game image problem since college, and his lackluster individual performance during the Colts’ 2006 Super Bowl run did little to quiet the critics who question Manning’s ability to execute efficiently when pressure is the highest.

Manning has played in one Super Bowl, his statistics in that one Super Bowl:

25-38 247 yards 1 TD, 1 INT, 81.8 rating.

Not great but also not exactly terrible. This makes Manning a choker and less of a quarterback in Jason Whitlock's eyes. So according to what is being written here, Peyton Manning is not the greatest quarterback of all-time because he hasn't played well in the postseason. Manning's career spans 16 postseason games and we are supposed to be put more weight on those games than the 192 regular season games he has played.

We have already discussed Manning's record in the postseason, so it would be pointless to do it again. Jason Whitlock regurgitates the same numbers over again, while comparing Manning to the same quarterbacks I compared him to, and it would be pointless to go back over this. Yes, Manning doesn't have a great win-loss record in the postseason (He's 8-8), but football is a team game so I really am going to discount that when judging Manning's individual career.

Let's look at the players Whitlock compares Manning to for an entire playoff career with how these players performed in their career in the Super Bowl. You know, the biggest stage where quarterbacks are supposed to "execute efficiently when pressure is the highest" (as quoted by Whitlock above) and see how Manning compares. I know some quarterbacks have larger sample sizes than others and there isn't much I can do about that. Over an entire playoff career he compares favorably with Favre, Marino and a couple others among some of the greatest quarterbacks of all-time. I want to clear Manning's name in his only Super Bowl appearance in the eyes of Jason Whitlock, since he kind of knocked Manning's performance in his only Super Bowl appearance.

Manning compared to other quarterbacks in the Super Bowl:

Peyton Manning (1 game) : 65.7% completion rate, 247.0 yards/game, 1 TD, 1 INT, 81.8 rating.

John Elway (5 games): 50.0% completion rate, 225.6 yards/game, 3 TD, 8 INT, 59.3 rating.

Kurt Warner (3 games): 62.4% completion rate, 385.3 yards/game, 6 TD, 3 INT, 95.9 rating.

Tom Brady (4 games): 64.5% completion rate, 250.3 yards/game, 7 TD, 1 INT, 95.1 rating.

Brett Favre (2 games): 56.5% completion rate, 251.0 yards/game, 5 TD, 1 INT, 97.6 rating.

Dan Marino (1 game): 58.0% completion rate, 318 yards/game, 1 TD, 2 INT, 66.9 rating.

Joe Montana (4 games): 68.0% completion rate, 285.6 yards/game, 11 TD, 0 INT, 127.8 rating.

The first thing I notice is that when people compare Tom Brady to Joe Montana in regards to Super Bowl performances, it is incredibly unfair to Joe Montana. Holy shit, I forgot how good he was in the Super Bowl. 127.8 rating and 11 TD's without an interception. That's some impressive statistics.

The second thing I notice is that yet again Peyton Manning was better than Dan Marino and John Elway in their Super Bowl appearances. Manning had a middle-of-the-road Super Bowl performance compared to the other quarterbacks we compared here. Remember we are comparing Manning in the postseason and in the Super Bowl with some of the greatest quarterbacks of all-time, so these guys are supposed to be the best of the best. This isn't an argument against Manning as not being one of the greatest quarterbacks of all-time, since he didn't have a BAD performance in his one appearance, just not a performance that rates among the best quarterbacks of all-time in the Super Bowl. I still think more weight should be given to the regular season statistics of Manning than Whitlock gives him credit for.

My point is that Peyton Manning has had his share of playoff struggles but despite this I still think he should be in the conversation for best quarterback of all-time based on his regular season statistics. Jason Whitlock sees it differently.

Now, let’s take the discussion a step farther. Manning is playing in the QB era, which is somewhat like baseball’s steroid era. The rules of the game so heavily favor the quarterback and the passing game that statistics are being distorted.

I will agree the rules are heavily leaning towards protecting quarterbacks, but it also has to be acknowledged that there are better athletes in today's NFL than there was even 20 years ago. Defenses are also much more complex today than they were in the past. Expansion has diluted the league to some extent, but free agency and the salary cap has also prevented teams from being able to horde talent offensively for extended periods of time. Manning may have more rules protecting him, but he also has better defensive competition (at least athletically) he has to go against. There are trade-offs that could have hampered Manning's performance even knowing the rules of the passing game does favor quarterbacks.

Throwing for 4,000 yards in a season used to be a very big deal. No one did it in 1997. Two guys did it in 2001. This past season, 10 QBs surpassed the 4,000-yard barrier.

It it is true the offenses in the NFL have become more passing oriented, but is this because of the change in rules to help the quarterbacks or is it because of the increase in the usage of multiple receiver sets and the fact passing offenses are becoming more sophisticated? I would argue it's a mixture of both, so we can't discount what Manning has done over his career. I don't know if I would argue quarterbacks have become better at what they do, but passing games have evolved to where offensive schemes teams are spreading the field on the defense and throwing the ball instead of running the ball. An example of this is how the fullback is slowly being phased out of the game in some offenses.

I am not sure the fact Peyton Manning has put up great numbers as a quarterback can completely be attributed to the fact the league has started protecting receivers and quarterbacks more.

In 1990, three quarterbacks -- Jim Kelly, Warren Moon and Joe Montana -- completed more than 60 percent of their passes. Nineteen years later, 21 quarterbacks -- including future career backups David Garrard, Alex Smith and Chad Henne -- connected on at least 60 percent of their throws.

Again, I would also argue that quarterbacks have gotten better over the past 20 years due to what I have stated above about passing offenses becoming more sophisticated, and yes, the fact the NFL has changed some rules to protect the quarterback. I don't know if this should still reflect poorly on Peyton Manning and his accomplishments. I don't think it is easier to be a quarterback today than it used to be 20 years ago because of the sophistication of the defenses and athleticism of the players on the defensive side of the ball.

Also, Chad Henne is not a "future career backup," he actually looks pretty good out there at times for the Dolphins.

No one has benefitted more than Peyton Manning. He’s collected four MVP trophies in seven years by taking advantage of league’s insistence on providing quarterbacks PEDs -- performance-enhancing defenses.

The lone remaining venue where a QB can distinguish himself from the pretenders is the postseason.

This makes absolutely no sense. How has Manning been able to benefit from quarterback PEDs any more than Kurt Warner, Tom Brady, or any other good quarterback during this era? If Jason Whitlock is going to discount Manning's statistics for this reason, he will have to do the same with many of the other quarterbacks currently playing as well. That includes nearly all of the top quarterbacks in the NFL over the last 10 years, because they have played against the same defenses Manning has. So the same argument against Manning can be made for Warner, Brady, Favre, and several other great quarterbacks of the last 10 years.

To say the postseason is where the players set themselves a part is ridiculous. The same rules that quarterbacks and defenses have to obey in the regular season are present in the postseason. There is no difference in the rules for a game in the postseason and in the regular season, so the game isn't different and there shouldn't be a reason the postseason is where the "old school defenses" are allowed to change the rules. The pressure is different but there is no difference in the rules during the regular season and the postseason.

In fact, Manning and his team the Colts played in a game that provided the impetus for some of the rule changes in 2004 when the Colts receivers were manhandled by the Patriots secondary in the AFC Championship Game. The Patriots defenders were strategically being rough with the Colts receivers. The Colts lost that game because they didn't adjust to this, so it's not like he has had smooth sailing at the quarterback position over his entire career. Not to mention Manning hasn't been that bad in the postseason over his career. His numbers have been merely above average and compare favorably to other Hall of Fame quarterbacks.

Manning needs a good showing and a victory on Saturday. If not, he’s a Dan Marino upgrade and a slice below Brett Favre.

Manning would be below Favre and just above Marino in terms of the postseason, which is the smallest sample size next to the Pro Bowl to choose from when evaluating Manning's career.

Manning's numbers on Saturday: 68.2%, 246 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 87.9 rating.

(Manning also took two sacks that Dan Dierforf gave him credit for taking. Yes, it's gotten to the point Manning is being credited for taking sacks)

That’s not bad company. But it’s not Montana, Elway and Brady. Hell, Manning could fall behind Kurt Warner, if Warner wins another Super Bowl.

So Peyton Manning could potentially be considered below Kurt Warner on the list of "greatest quarterbacks of all-time" if Warner wins another Super Bowl? Again, we are going to take a team award and help it decide an individual award. This makes perfect nonsense. I am not going to deny Warner is a great quarterback in the postseason, but does it really make sense to weight the postseason more than the regular season when comparing the greatness of quarterbacks?

9. The media and fan cry that it’s time to end the Donovan McNabb era just so the Eagles can take a flyer on Kevin Kolb is a bad joke.

I wouldn't call it "taking a flyer" on Kolb, he has shown himself to be a serviceable quarterback when he has had the opportunity. This year his statistics in 3 games are:

64.6 completion rate, 247 yards/game, 4 TD, 3 INT, 88.9 rating.

I don't think Donovan McNabb should be replaced next year, but Kevin Kolb has seemed to present himself as a viable solution at some point in the future. It may take a little bit of time before he turns into a quality quarterback, but I like some of what I have seen from Kolb. Sometimes Whitlock's hating goes a little bit wayward and I think this is an example of that. I don't think replacing McNabb with Kolb in 2 years is that bad of a joke.

But Philly’s offensive line was terrible and Andy Reid’s management of his offense suspect. Legitimate playoff quarterbacks can’t be found on every street corner.

Agreed that McNabb shouldn't be replaced this year or possibly next year, but we really have no idea what Kolb can do in the playoffs so it's a bit unfair to write him off this soon. I think what would help the Eagles a lot is pretending to try and establish a running game of some point.

The Carolina Panthers gave Jake Delhomme a contract extension last season. And people want the Eagles to discard McNabb like he’s spoiled milk?

I am not sure what this comparison is supposed to prove, but that contract extension has cost Carolina $20 million dollars in money they can't get rid of and pretty much assured Delhomme stayed the quarterback long enough to submarine the entire 2009 season for the team. The contract extension also made sure the team has a difficult choice next year since the most successful quarterback in franchise history could potentially be on the roster as a backup because he is too expensive to release. In retrospect, this extension may not have been a good move.

So if Whitlock is suggesting McNabb get a contract extension, the Delhomme comparison is a terrible one because it is actually an argument AGAINST giving McNabb an extension. If he is suggesting Delhomme sucked and got an extension and so should McNabb, it's a bad comparison because Delhomme should never have gotten the extension.

7. There are several holes in all the Green Bay whining about the uncalled facemask penalty on Aaron Rodgers’ game-deciding fumble.

It's not really whining and is instead a potentially valid argument?

The refs miss calls all the time. Rodgers missed Greg Jennings deep on the first play of overtime.

These are two completely different issues and are in no way able to be compared to each other without me laughing at the absurdity of Whitlock saying a ref has a right to miss a call because Aaron Rodgers missed a 50-yard pass to a receiver. I don't know in what world a ref missing a call is fine because a football player didn't throw a complete pass...and these two events are supposed to be comparable.

The fact is, Brett Favre would’ve connected with Jennings. Packers fans know it and that’s why they’re whining about the hit on Rodgers.

I know Jason Whitlock tells it like it is...but would Favre have hit Greg Jennings in this situation? Would the Packers have even be able to comeback in this game with Favre at the quarterback position? It's entirely possible given Favre's performance on Saturday, but it's absurd to make concrete statements that can't be proven in an effort to make a point. I don't think Packers fans are upset by this completely unjustifiable and unprovable idea that Favre would have connected with Jennings, they seem to be upset with the officiating.

I like Rodgers. I like the way he played in that game. He has yet to justify Ted Thompson’s decision to run Favre out of Green Bay.

One last time:

Brett Favre over the last two seasons:

2008: 65.7% completion rate, 217 yards/game, 22 TD, 22 INT, 81.0 rating.
2009: 68.4% completion rate, 262.6 yards/game, 33 TD, 7 INT, 107.0 rating.

He is 40 years old and could retire/unretire at any point over the next couple of years.

Aaron Rodgers over the last two seasons:

2008: 63.6% completion rate, 252.4 yards/game, 28 TD, 13 INT, 93.8 rating.
2009: 64.7% completion rate, 277.1 yards/game, 30 TD, 7 INT, 103.2 rating.

He is 26 years old and would be a free agent after this season if Favre had not gotten traded. What would the Packers plan have been at that point? Favre is going to do the retirement dance this offseason, if he really does it this time, and doesn't come back, the Packers would have Matt Flynn as the projected starter for next year unless they sign or draft a player who doesn't know their offensive system. I talk about this ALL THE TIME, but the Packers made the right move. Yes, it sucks right now since Favre is playing well for a team that is superior on defense to the Packers and therefore a better team, but it will make more sense when Favre retires.

Aaron Rodgers has already justified the decision to trade Brett Favre when Favre wanted to come out of retirement by putting up comparable (better?) numbers over the last 2 seasons and being 14 years younger. Yes, I also know Favre's team beat Rodgers' team twice this year, but that's more of a reflection on each team than each quarterback when I am doing a head-to-head comparison.

Whitlock is wrong about Rodgers not justifying the move yet. It's the end of these two being compared here for two weeks, you have my word.

At the beginning of the year I wrote that we may never see Fearless Tom Brady again. His knee injury would produce timidity in the pocket. That’s exactly what happened against Baltimore. Under duress, Brady made poor throws.

I would love to know what quarterback is able to make great throws to Brady's receiver corp under duress? In the playoffs, any quarterback under duress is going to struggle generally. I don't know if the knee injury was the reason Brady didn't look comfortable in the pocket against the Ravens, I think it was more the fact his offensive line didn't do a great job of blocking for him and he doesn't have a great running game. I would blame it on Welker being injured, but teams have backups for a reason, in case of injury. That injury did play a part as well of course in Brady looking uncomfortable in the pocket. I think the knee injury played a 5% role (at most) in Brady's performance.

Reading and reacting takes time and allows the defense to get to the QB. The Ravens hit Brady early in the game and Brady started thinking about his knee. It’s natural.

I hope that someday I can have the special superpowers that many sportswriters have. It's the superpower that will help me look into an athlete's brain and know EXACTLY what he was thinking about. Somehow my telepathic powers aren't as great as Jason Whitlock. He KNOWS Brady was thinking about his injured knee even though it seems like Brady didn't seem to think about the knee at any other point this year to the point it affected his play.

I usually like Whitlock, but he can do a little better than he did here. He's done better and he can do better again. There is a difference in shooting from the hip and saying things that are debatable in their accuracy.

-Stewart Mandel has a college mailbag up and some of his answers really didn't make sense or please me in the least.

Jim Tressel resigning to begin new career as late-night talk show host ... South Florida to hire Holtz -- Lou Holtz.

Is there anything we wouldn't believe at this point?

Tuesday, September 1, 2009

19 comments 10 Lessons in Baseball Knowledge Idiocy

I want to remind those who are interested to sign up for the College Football Pick 'Em. It's really easy, you pick the winner based on the line of the game, and I enjoy it a whole lot. The information is in yesterday's MMQB post.

Tuesday is always a tough day for me when it comes to picking out an article to talk about. I need much more time to cover TMQ, Easterbrook doesn't even post it until mid-morning and that is not enough time for me to wade through it all. It makes my head hurt. I love posting TMQ and Peter King the most, if you haven't noticed, so TMQ usually gets covered, I just have to give myself enough time to dive into it. To make matters worse, Peter King doesn't post his mailbag until 1pm or 2pm on Tuesday and I don't really have time in the afternoon to post anything about it. I really have no point, I just thought I would share that with everyone.

Joe Morgan has struck again. I always forget about his idiocy until a Sunday Night Baseball game comes rolling around and I happen to watch said game. Sunday night, he made a comment that "statistics are good if used to support something, but I like to observe whether a player is struggling at the plate or not for myself." This statement really isn't inherently wrong but I can't believe if he sees a statistic that says Ryan Howard is 2-24 over his last 7 games he actually needs to see Howard's swing to know he is struggling. It's just typical Joe Morgan.

I enjoyed how I did the JoeChat last time and it got an overwhelming non-response from everyone, so I will do it that way again. It's much easier for me to write and I think it is easier for you to read when you don't have to read the question...though I will copy and paste the question when pertinent.

Buzzmaster (11:07 AM)
Hey everyone...hang on a minute. Joe was traveling this morning but I don't think he's reached his destination yet. He may have run into some travel delays.


Buzzmaster (11:30 AM)
Joe is here everyone! His plane was late.


If Peter King was on that flight he would never have stood for this. He would stood up halfway through the flight angry with the wireless service the plane provides, bitched about the coffee, gone to the bathroom to clean out his bowels in preparation for a colonoscopy, asked to speak to the pilot "who should know who he is" when he found out the plane was running late, and then punched a stewardess in the face in response to finding out his hotel reservation had been taken.

Joe is much more docile than Peter. Joe probably just doesn't think they make any great airlines anymore because they are all so inconsistent with their arrival times.

1. (On the most dramatic parts of baseball right now)

The wild card races are really heating up. I think that's where the most drama will be by the end of the season.

Maybe it is just the way he phrased this sentence, but there should be no drama from the Wild Card race by the end of the season because the Wild Card race will be over at that point.

Assuming he just phrased this sentence in a crazy way, considering the closest teams in the divisional races in the AL involve second place teams 4.0 and 5.0 games behind and the closest race in the NL is in the NL West where the Rockies are 6.0 games out (as of Monday night) and the Wild Card in the AL has three teams within 5 games of each other and the NL Wild Card race has 5 teams within 5.5 games of each other, I don't think this is a far fetched prediction. Thanks for saying the obvious.

2. (Whether Mark Reynolds gets MVP Consideration in the NL)

Well, I think he should get some votes, but I don't think he should get any first place votes. You get to pick 10 people. I would say he'll get some votes. Because of his team's place in the standings, I don't think he'll be in the top 3 or 4.

This is just plain lunacy. It's the MVP, which is Most Valuable Player, not the MVPOWT, or Most Valuable Player On a Winning Team. A player should not get extra credit for being on a good team. I don't know if Mark Reynolds is the National League MVP, at least as long as Albert Pujols is alive, but to say he doesn't deserve 1st place votes because he doesn't play for a good team is ignorant and stupid. I don't think Joe Morgan has an MVP vote but if he does, it should be taken away immediately. There is a reason I started this blog and "smart" people like this saying stupid things like this previous statement is the main reason.

In what world will .295/.382/.576 with 37 HR's and 114 RBI's on a winning team be more valuable than a guy who puts up .316/.399/.589 with 41 HR's and 96 RBI's on a losing team? It is about how valuable the guy is, not how good the team he plays on is.

3. (Whether the Phillies can repeat)

They definitely have a chance of repeating. I think the key will be Cole Hamels. If he can get back to being the pitcher he was at the end of last season, with the addition of Lee, I think they have a chance. So, with Hamels and of course Brad Lidge.

Yeah of course, Brad Lidge...

OF COURSE BRAD LIDGE WHAT? This isn't a sentence that is the least bit recognizable. I realize this is a chat, so it is more informal, but what the hell does Brad Lidge have to do? Quit blowing saves? Because the Phillies don't have a chance if Brad Lidge continues not doing that. What about Brad Lidge? Is he the key to the Phillies repeating? If so, why? How are you still paid by ESPN to call baseball games?

4. (If he thinks Pete Rose will be reinstated)

That's a difficult question. I don't like to use the phrase never. To make this perfectly clear, I'm not concerned about Pete Rose getting into the Hall of Fame, or managing. As a friend, I'm concerned about him being reinstated to the game and having his head held high about his accomplishments.

His accomplishments? The hits record or the fact he was able to subsidize his salary from managing with gambling winnings? The hits record, that is his accomplishment, which was a product of playing for a long time, being a good hitter, and hitting at the top of the order.

The Hall of Fame and managing again should not be his priorities. Just getting reinstated should be his priority.

He will never manage again. EVER. So if Pete Rose has it in his crazy little head he will ever be able to manage again he is delusional. No one will hire him, especially since HE HASN'T STOPPED GAMBLING YET! I was amazed when I learned that from the Jayson Stark article last week.

I wouldn't hire him to run my Fantasy Baseball team for fear he would gamble my players away.

5. (His response to FJMorgan baiters)

KaTie (Fremulon)

Hey Joe, when you think of all the players in MLB, who do you think is the perfect example of playing the game the right way?

Classic.

First of all, I think there are a lot of players who play the game the right now. There's a long list I would have to give you. I was in Anaheim last night and Tori Hunter is one of those guys. I was in Boston over the weekend and Derek Jeter is one of those guys.

I can't believe he hasn't caught on to this yet. I think he may be playing along at this point.

There are a lot of them. We hear that players don't play well or hard, and I disagree with that. Dustin Pedroia.

You hear that Dustin Pedroia doesn't play the game well or hard? The MVP from last year? The small, short gritty guy with a big mouth? How come I don't believe this? I demand to know who is saying players today don't play well or hard...other than Joe Morgan himself of course. Maybe he hears the voices in his head say all the teams are inconsistent so he thinks everyone believes this as well.

I guarantee I could name you 40 or 50 guys that I think play the game the right way.

With this statement, Joe moved on to the next question. I kid you not. I want to see that list of players who play the game the right way dammit!

6. (Best catcher ever)

I'm probably prejudice a little bit, but I don't think there's any catcher better than Johnny Bench.

"Prejudice(d) a little bit?" This from the same man who probably wants this guy to be in the Hall of Fame. He would put the entire Big Red Machine in the Hall of Fame if he had his choice. I read an article this week in Sports Illustrated and it said Sparky Anderson told the 1975 Reds team Pete Rose, Tony Perez, Joe Morgan and Johnny Bench could do whatever they wanted and the rest of the team were "turds." Remember that next time Joe Morgan accuses a manager of playing favorites or criticizing how a manager treats his players.

7. (If Ben Zobrist deserves MVP votes)

There are a lot of guys having a good year on a lot of different teams. But to say that he's an MVP candidate, I don't think so. I think you're looking at Teixiera, Morneau, Mauer.

What spell does Justin Morneau have over those who get to vote for the MVP award? Here are the three guys I think should be in consideration, plus Morneau and I want you to rank them yourself...

.290/.375/.546, 29 HR 96 RBI
.367/.435/.608, 25 HR 79 RBI
.284/.380/.547, 31 HR 101 RBI
.335/.399/.565, 27 HR 82 RBI

Just looking at those numbers, I say the MVP voting should go #2, #4, #3, #1. Which would be Mauer, Miguel Cabrera, Texeira, and Morneau. Morneau shouldn't be in the top 3 at this point. I really hope Joe doesn't get to vote for this award.

8. (Joe talking about Juan Pierre)

I've said all along that Juan Pierre brought an energy to that team that they didn't have with Manny in the lineup.

In that case you have been wrong all along. You can have Juan Pierre and his energy (what is this a freaking marathon?) and I will take Manny Ramirez even when he struggles.

Maybe Joe Torre will do that. Manny's not hitting well either.

Manny is hitting .307/.427/.544 right now. Juan Pierre only matches those numbers in his dreams. You only take Manny Ramirez out to replace him with Juan Pierre if you are trying to lose a baseball game or it is the 8th inning and Pierre and his noodle arm are brought in for defensive purposes.

And when he's not hitting well, he's not helping you that much.

When Juan Pierre is not hitting well, how the hell does he help the team? The team's energy level goes up? Last time I checked runs were scored by not clogging the bases and bunting, not energy. Hitting three run home runs and driving in runs is so boring....even though that is primarily how Joe Morgan judges an MVP candidate.

Yes, this is the contradiction of Joe Morgan. He hates the three run home run, wishes teams would steal more bases, hates strikeouts and thinks bunting is a great way to play baseball but judges MVP candidates on their ability to hit home runs and drive in players and those guys very often strike out more often and bunt a whole lot less than other players.

9. (Why pitchers are better in the National League compared to the American League)

Some guys like the NL better. I think CC Sabathia wanted to stay in the NL because he likes to hit, but the Yankees made that impossible with the contract they offered.

Apparently Joe Morgan thinks the Yankees are like the Mafia and they made Sabathia an offer he could not refuse.

Three things Joe ignores or doesn't think of:

1. The Brewers made Sabathia a pretty good offer, in exess of $100 million if I am not wrong, so he very well could have stayed in the NL just to bat and have afforded to live fairly comfortably.

2. The Yankees didn't make it impossible for him to play in the NL, they just offered him a much bigger contract than he got anywhere else.

3. Sabathia only played in the NL for a little over 2 months, after playing in the AL prior to that, I doubt he played in the NL long enough and enjoyed batting so much he would have declined more money just to do it.

10. (Whether Pedro Martinez will pitch well for the remainder of the season)

I think he's pitching well. He should get a little better.

I thought the Pedro signing was a good idea for the Phillies, though we all know I am the only Pedro hater in the world, but how is he going to get better? He has a WHIP of 1.25 and an ERA of 4.50, which is about exactly what I expected from him.

The plus you have with him is that you don't have the innings on his arm.

That's very true, unless you want to count the 2,798.2 innings he has pitched over his career and the fact he is coming off major surgery. Other than that, yeah he should be completely fresh at this point in the season.

Buzzmaster (11:58 AM)

Thanks Joe!

Thanks for showing up 30 minutes late to share your bizarre look at the baseball world for 28 minutes.

-I generally agree with Wallace Matthews premise that the Yankees are crazy for only allowing Joba Chamberlain to only pitch 35 pitches in his last start. If this article was maybe three paragraphs long I could have enjoyed it, unfortunately Wallace just keeps on typing.

Last week, it was fewer starts, more rest in between. Now it's more starts, fewer innings, with the aim of getting this young, strong, incredibly talented athlete in shape to do what lesser specimens all over the league do on a daily basis, which is throw 100 pitches in October.

This is the point of the article where he should have stopped. Obviously the Yankees want Chamberlain to be able to start baseball games in October...but if Chamberlain has only thrown a maximum of 60 pitches per start for the last 2 months how is he going to have the endurance to throw 100 pitches in October? Maybe I am underestimating his arm strength and endurance. Either way, Wallace should have stopped here.

On to what Wallace says wrong...Lesser pitchers do not throw 100 pitches in October on a daily basis. There are only 8 teams that generally play into October and pitchers are not throwing 100 pitches on a daily basis in the playoffs. Wallace may be overestimating how many pitches pitchers throw in October. A pitcher has pitched a very good or a very bad game if he has hit 100 pitches in October. Usually the manager shortens the pitching staff in the playoffs and pitches may pitch on less rest, but pitches are not throwing 100 pitches on a daily basis.

Even by the standards of a game in which it is widely believed that dumb and lazy is the answer to just about everything -

I have no idea what he is talking about here. Dumb and lazy is not the answer to anything at all in baseball. Other than pitch counts, I would love to know when "dumb and lazy" is the answer to any baseball related problem.

Maybe Wallace Matthews is the guy that Joe Morgan is talking about when Joe said he heard people say players today don't play hard or well.

how often have you heard a manager say a player is "thinking too much'' or "trying too hard?'' - this is ridiculous.

It's because the player has natural/learned skills and is making the game more complicated for himself by not allowing the natural/learned skill to take over, it's not to tell the player to actually not think at all or quit trying.

Billy Martin, of course, would have pitched Joba until his arm fell off. He managed the Yankees in the World Series two years in a row, winning in 1977. Girardi hasn't been to the playoffs yet.

If Billy Martin would have done it that way, then clearly I think Joe Girardi needs to take after the guy who got fired and hired on a daily basis by George Steinbrenner. I am sure also it was completely Billy Martin and the fact he pitched guys until their arm fell off that won a World Series and not the players actually playing well that won the World Series.

It seems like Wallace's answer to writing a column is to do something dumb and lazy.

-Because CNNSI.com had so much success with Peter King's MMQB, they have decided to do a college football edition. It's called "College Football Overtime" and it is written by Stewart Mandel.

I actually generally like Stewart Mandel and he doesn't include any personal related topics in his first column, so that is always a good start to differentiate himself from Peter King. I don't know how much you will see College Football Overtime on this blog, but what makes me nervous is Mandel has a personal blog and his first "essay" is about a long line in an airport and his second essay is about how annoying Verizon Wireless is. SI, what hath you done to me? I hope Mandel doesn't start incorporating stuff like that from his personal blog into CFO or else he very well may make this blog.

What does SI.com put in the water that causes their columnists to feel the need to bitch about everyday nuisances in print? He knows his college football pretty well but I really hope he limits his thoughts to that.

Monday, March 17, 2008

0 comments Hurry Everyone...the Duke Is Overrated Bandwagon Is Leaving! Oh and Lute Olson sucks...

I am going to mention a controversial topic right now. Not abortion, not the death penalty or even which FJM is truly better...but Duke basketball. I was surfing the Internet today viewing the previews of the NCAA Tournament and noticed a trend. Put down your guns, knives, pepper spray and pillows with bars of soap in them just for a minute. What other team is this universally hated in college basketball for no reason other than all the press they get? (Why UNC is not hated is beyond me. They even have the nerdy, douchy, white guy in Hansbrough...that is a different post though.) Now Duke looks vulnerable and only got a 2 Seed in the NCAA Tournament. If you hate Duke and are in the national media, HURRY UP AND WRITE AN ARTICLE ON HOW BAD THEY SUCK! Get a shot in now! But then predict they will advance far in the tournament.

Foxsports courtesy of Randy Hill: The most vulnerable high seeds...
Good teams with flaws or match-up issues that could send them home early.


Duke: The West's No. 2 seed lacks the inside presence to prevent a beat-down in the lane. If Arizona shows up to play against West Virginia, 6-foot-10 Jordan Hill may have fun against the Blue Devils in Round 2.

Duke has no inside presence, this is not news. So that is actually a good point. This has been happening for years now. Still, no mention of the fact Duke has superior depth and 6-foot-10 Jordan Hill (is he Randy's brother?) has to guard someone on defense, which would potentially be a mismatch. I do see the point though, but a Duke bash nonetheless. So I guess Duke won't advance past Arizona.

Duke vs. UCLA: If the second-seeded Blue Devils and top-seeded Bruins meet in the West finale, pay attention to Mike Krzyzewski's fast pace and spread tactics vs. Ben Howland's grind-'em-down Bruin philosophy.

So they will advance? To the Elite 8? Even without an inside presence? A team seeded in the 2 Spot is either the 5-8th best team in the country, so they would meet expectations. It does not make sense to say they have weaknesses that will take them out of the tournament early and then predict they may meet UCLA in the Elite Eight. I understand you are just giving potential matchups to watch for but I do love how you hedge your bets. I would love to see your bracket.

CNNSI.com courtesy of Stewart Mandel:

Overrated: Duke. As has been the case often in recent years, the Blue Devils peaked somewhere around mid-February, and their lack of frontcourt depth has caught up to them.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/stewart_mandel/02/21/duke/index.html

Mandel wrote a wonderful article and I linked it above. If you hate Duke, read it and laugh at them. Oh how true. So Duke has frontcourt depth problems. Again, nothing new here, so that is why they are overrated. Good Duke bash! Where are they gonna lose Stewie?

If these two meet in the Sweet 16, it will be fascinating to watch the Musketeers' senior backcourt duo of Drew Lavender and Stanley Burrell go up against more heralded counterparts Greg Paulus and Gerald Henderson.

Sweet 16? Not that overrated I guess. Two Points here:

1. Making the Sweet 16 is not bad. Granted, a 2 Seed should get further, but if they won this game, they would be in the Elite 8, which would be the expectation for them based on national rankings.

2. Paulus and Henderson are very heralded and that would be a fascinating matchup to view. I Googled it though Stewie (go to google.com and then type in "Duke Blue Devils 2007-2008 statistics") and found DeMarcus Nelson actually led the Blue Devils in PPG, Steals, and Rebounding. So I guess he would qualify as the best player on the team most nights. One of them would have to guard Nelson, who is also a Senior, I added that since you love senior backcourts. Not a big deal, but when you describe a matchup that could be fun to watch, be sure to include the best player on one of the teams. I am being nitpicky, I realize this, but that is like saying a team matches up well with UNC because they can guard Deon Thompson and Wayne Ellington.

CBS Sportsline courtesy of Dennis Dodd:

Most likely upset: West Virginia or Arizona over Duke in the second round. Because of the unending hype, you never know how good Duke really is. I'm saying the young Devils are not good enough to get through a quality second-round opponent.

Dennis Dodd has balls enough to actually make a Duke bashing prediction. I wonder why he feels this way? No analysis huh? Good reasoning at least in saying they are young. If you can get through the unending hype, you can actually see how good Duke is. I will help you Dennis Douche (can I call you that?). Teams play games and get a "record" which shows how many games that team has lost. Duke has a "record" that includes 5 losses. They have beaten 7 teams that are in the NCAA tournament and lost to 4 of the teams. They are 7-4 against NCAA Tournament teams. Including a victory over UNC and Wisconsin. Given that information, you can evaluate how good Duke is a little better. They were also second in the nation's toughest conference, based on RPI, so that may help also. I don't want to confuse you though.

Here is the coup de grace and honestly, I had to bitch about the lousy Duke comments before I could get to this. What is an article about the NCAA Tournament without a cheap shot at a Hall of Fame coach?

1. Lute looms: Regarding the, uh, "relationship" between former/future coach Lute Olsen and current/soon-to-be former coach Kevin O'Neill at Arizona: These guys aren't exactly on the same page. Wouldn't it be great if O'Neill got the Wildcats to the Final Four, something the 73-year-old Olsen doesn't have the time or chops to do anymore?

Maybe I am missing something and please tell me if I am. (By the way, who are you, that person who reads this blog?) O'Neill was the interim coach, Olson announced he was coming back. Therefore interim coach is not coach anymore. Did I simplify that too much for you Dennis Douche? How is Lute Olson not an effective coach anymore? What has he done to make you think this? Two questions:

1. Why do you hate Lute Olson?

2. Why would it be great if the Arizona Wildcats made the Final Four? Did Lute Olson molest you at a summer camp or did his grandson give you a wedgie at some point? Lute Olson coming back to coach for most humans is exciting because he is a sort of legend at Arizona.

(Dennis Douche waking up in the morning) Damn that 73 year old legend of a coach who has won a National Championship! Damn him all to Hell! How dare he attempt to take time off to get his personal life together! Damn him for trying to prevent a divorce 7 years after his wife of many years died of cancer. I bet his 1st wife would have been cured if he had the time or chops to take care of her appropriately. Damn him all to Hell! If there is nothing else I do in this world before I die, I will make sure Lute Olson gets what is coming to him!

Just for shits and giggles on how dumb this Dennis Douche fellow is, here is a later quote in this "article" Dennis Douche wrote.

That would be back when Jim Harrick (gag reflex inserted) was coaching.

How exactly do you insert a gag reflex? It is a reflex, I am not exactly sure you can insert it anywhere. Are you secretly RoboCop Dennis Douche?

(Dennis Douche at his annual physical that he has the time and chops to go to) "Go ahead and strike my knee doc!"

(Doctor striking knee violently) "Why did your knee not jerk? Why are you not blinking at all? Tyler Hansbrough is that you? Are you human or an android sent from Hell to annoy Internet readers everywhere?"

(Dennis Douche) "Sorry doc, I forgot to insert my gag reflex this morning. Therefore none of my reflexes work."

(Doctor laughs furiously in a hearty way) "Dennis, never forget to do that again. You have to insert your reflexes every morning."

(Dennis Douche) "Sorry doc, I apologize. I am just the type of person who takes cheap shots at Hall of Fame coaches for no reason."


I think Duke will lose in the Sweet 16 because I believe the team is tired from the long season and will run into a team that is just playing a little better. Duke is overhyped and over-loved and probably did not deserve a 2 Seed. I think it is hilarious that columnists predict their demise in the second round but then preview interesting matchups involving them in the later rounds. At least Dennis Douche had the balls to make a prediction and stick with it. Unfortunately he irritated me by not devoting a sentence to why he believed what he did, which would have helped his credibility a bit. We are not really sure how good of a writer Dennis Douche is based on this article and it's anger towards Lute Olson. I am saying Dennis Douche is a not good enough to write for the school newspaper.